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Post by chicheman on Aug 22, 2019 18:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by chicheman on Aug 17, 2019 17:46:07 GMT -5
Jasper, thanks for your words dear friend, sending good thoughts and wishes over the pond. Travelling Ndee country was great.
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Post by chicheman on Aug 15, 2019 8:48:56 GMT -5
Was touring thru White Mountain land two years ago, saw a sign to Bylas, unfortunately couldn´t take the road toward there, had to head on. But only can tell good memories visiting with Apache people at that time, White Mountain Apache culture center and museum etc. Best wishes
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Post by chicheman on Aug 15, 2019 8:45:56 GMT -5
Great to meet you here, welcome, and thanks for sharing about your great grandfather. Respectfully, greetings from Germany chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Aug 15, 2019 8:35:46 GMT -5
Great share ouroboros, thanks, these are interesting details again. I definitively have to read more and especially those sources you did suggest. I´m also looking forward as of informations on Juan Gòmez you will put together, already most interesting sounding to me. Greetings from Germany
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Post by chicheman on Aug 11, 2019 6:50:27 GMT -5
again much interesting source you sent ouroboros, have to look out for those books you mentioned. Sounds reasonable about the power devision that you do suggest, yes. Well, I have to say that I do not know much about Gomez, I´ll have to do some research on him as well.
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Post by chicheman on Aug 11, 2019 6:42:38 GMT -5
thanks cinemo, that sheds some light on what probably really happend to the Metz party and to me it wasn´t Tasunke Witko who murdered these people. Looks a lot like Persimmon Bill being responsible.
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Post by chicheman on Aug 8, 2019 12:00:05 GMT -5
Ah, I may be wrong with thinking that man wearing hat is Caddo or Wichita. Just noted the post of tk who thinks he´s Comanche, known as Pohowiquasso. TK always having evidence when doing statements,no doubt.
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Post by chicheman on Aug 8, 2019 11:55:14 GMT -5
California, yes I do think the same, the photo above doesn´t show Satanta, face is different than that of the photo below which is Satanta / Set-Tainte. But would be interesting to know who that man is shown above, wearing that hat. Not sure if he is Kiowa also, or perhaps some other tribe like Caddo or Wichita ?
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Post by chicheman on Aug 8, 2019 9:55:02 GMT -5
Thanks ouroboros for those additional informations, that´s very interesting, great. I wasn´t aware that bisons did reach that far into Mexico and also to the north once, a long time ago. Good sources and interesting reading, thank you.That shows clearly that Apaches were familiar with buffalos and hunting them.
greetings from Germany
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Post by chicheman on Aug 8, 2019 6:00:11 GMT -5
Chiricahuas and Mescaleros seem to habe been always in good relations and friends and intermarried. And fought side by side, as Mescaleros have been with Victorio often. Interesting what Jasper is mentioning on history and on Opler, thanks. As of the fact that Chiricahuas knew how to hunt buffalo and skinning them etc. I get that photo in mind, showing Geronimo skinning a buffalo in front of a group of Plains Indians watching. Guess that photo was done in Oklahoma and Geronimo sure was skilled in doing that job. Some people might think Apaches did not know much about buffalo, but that was sure vice versa, they knew very well, though they did not live in the main buffalo land, but bordering it. One thing I noticed recently is, that the Comanche called the Rio Grand by the name of "stinking buffalo river", for the fact that in former times there were so many buffalos around, guess it was because the buffaloes then left some excrements around so the name came into use. Also read somewhere that buffaloes in earlier times roamed south into northern Mexico, so Apaches sure were familiar with these animals.
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Post by chicheman on Jul 25, 2019 11:26:38 GMT -5
thanks for your words Californian, yes the Nez Perce did keep good relations with the white people for decades, from first contact until the Nez Perce War, this is to admire. But finally it was enough and to much for them. Too bad that the story went as it did, many Nez Perce getting killed and wounded and finally the survivors losing their land and freedom during or after the war of 1877. But it´s great to learn that they survived and many aspects of their culture still going on. Here is a link that sounds interesting : www.nps.gov/nepe/index.htm
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Post by chicheman on Jul 10, 2019 5:51:55 GMT -5
Well, to be fair about the young Nez Perces who killed those white settlers, the Nez Perces had to endure a lot of injustices from the whites before it reached that point. More and more whites arriving in their lands and hunting grounds and the pressure of the government to give up their homeland, even though those non treaty bands didn´t sign anything, never wanted and did not agree to leave for a reservation. So certainly the Nez Perce had also some reason to finally react to those provocations. As to the number of Sitting Bull´s warriors, I don´t know without going back to sources, but I think he had several hundred of warriors available in the several Lakota camps in Canada. But sure the estimated number of 3000 might be much to high in my opinion. Good book about to read on the Nez Perce and Lakota in Canada is this one, as I find it very well researched and written :
Beyond Bear´s Paw: The Nez Perce Indians in Canada, by Jerome A. Greene
Greetings chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Jul 10, 2019 5:29:41 GMT -5
Thanks to Sunny and Dietmar for sharing, danke ! Always interesting to learn more about Little Crow and his family. Looking forward for any new informations. chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Jun 25, 2019 13:22:48 GMT -5
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