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Post by chicheman on Apr 20, 2012 17:48:54 GMT -5
A slow wandering people can become rather numerous over time. No doubt there were divisions and groups for one reason or another branched off, calling themselves by a different name. In time new dialects are spoken and cultures change due to location.
We have always knew the Lenape as our Grandfathers and there's a pretty good chance they are the Grandfathers of other Algonquian tribal groups as well
Thank you Pellethie.
In John Sugden "The Shawnee in Tecumseh´s Time" I found this, about inter-tribal diplomacy, which gives an interesting view about the Shawnee custom of addressing other people:
Most other tribes where addressed as "younger brother´s" while Iroquois and Wyandot they called "elder brother´s. Kickapoo known as "first brother´s", Sac and Fox "second brother´s" and the Delaware as "grandfather´s". These terms acknowledge the obvious connexion between the Shawnee, Kickapoo, Sac and Fox as evidenced through similarities in Language, and the one-time political leadership of the Iroquois. Shawnees, Delawares and Mingoes established their own council fire about 1747 at Logstown, Ohio and demonstrated their independence of the "old council fire" kept by the Iroquois at Onondaga in New York. . . . Still later the Wyandot where the keepers of the new council fire.
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Post by chicheman on Apr 17, 2012 5:45:26 GMT -5
Thank you for this information ! Interesting to read about Siouan - Caddo Language Conference. Also the article at puffin.creighton.edu page of John Boyle. I met him personally some years ago, a meeting I appreciate much.
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Post by chicheman on Apr 16, 2012 6:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by chicheman on Apr 14, 2012 17:26:44 GMT -5
Hi Pellethie,
yes the Delawares were considered as the grandfather tribe by some related Algonquin tribes. Am I right that also your own people, the Shawnees, adressed them as the grandfathers ? I guess I was reading somewhere once. However, it is historical fact that both Shawnees and Lenape are in close contact and allies since over three hundred years. Still close today. It is said that also the Ojibwe, Miamis and maybe Kickapoo and Sac & Foxes etc. adressed the Lenape / Delawares as their grandfathers. Not quite sure as about sources and exact statements. Do you know more exactly ? Would be glad to learn more about. You may allow me this question, - are you a member of one of the Oklahoma Shawnee tribes ? Nice to meet a Shawnee member here.
Greetings
chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 12, 2012 16:14:37 GMT -5
Hi Pellethie and Aka Baakuusheesh,
glad to meet you here, I´m a new member also. This is a good place here.
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 7:33:52 GMT -5
Hi,
I like to ask a question that came to mind in a german forum. The answer of some people there seemed kind of strange to me. (I personally took not part in their convesation, but a friend was and I was reading it)
Do we have any sources about the existence of Comanche - (or Plains-) Backrests ?
Their was some statement in that other forum, that Backrests may be some recent invention, probably since the knowledge of horses. Guess somebody even thought it might be in use only since the 19th Century. I personally think they might be much older. Also horses are known already for some 300 years to some tribes. The Comanches being one of the first ones to use them. Unfortunately I wasn´t able to find sources on that subject. Any information would be appreciated, just out of interest. Thanks !
chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 7:21:27 GMT -5
Dietmar,
yes, that is important information that should be considered in future books / articles about Comanches and / or Quenatosavit/Isatai.
Thanks to Dr. Kavanagh for this interesting detail.
I also never saw that new photo of Isatai as was posted here.
Thanks,
chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 6:41:54 GMT -5
I like to bring awareness to this important Project on the Northern Cheyenne Reservation, Montana. This organization is helping children of low income families thru sponsorships and other activities. For information go to this page : www.cheyennechildrenservices.comchicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 6:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 6:19:02 GMT -5
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 6:16:22 GMT -5
Interesting culture page of the Delaware Tribe of Indians, OK : www.delawaretribe.org/home.htmGives inside on the old traditional lifestyle of the Lenape people, known also as Delawares, as well as modern life today. Once living at the eastern Atlantic seabord, in NJ, NY, PA and parts of Delaware state, they had to move repeatedely to western areas, as white settlement extended in that directions more and more. In 1867 they finally moved to NE Oklahoma where they found their final home, their tribal headquarters located there today. Many tribal members are living in and around Bartlesville, OK, while many others can be found in nearly every other state of the country. chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 5:47:54 GMT -5
Hallo Dietmar,
danke für das Willkommen, ich lebe in Bayern.
thanks for the welcome, I´m living in bavaria.
Viele Grüße
chicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 5:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 5:02:12 GMT -5
Hi, a friend of mine is working with the Winnemem Wintu people of northern California in preserving and revitalizing their ancient Language. He is a linguist. The last fluent speaker died in the early 2000´s, a honored woman of nearly 97 years of age at the time of her death. This small tribe is also very active in preserving and living its traditional culture, religion and protection of its sacred sites. Here are some links for more information: www.wintu-sprache-retten.blogspot.com (German Language) (save-wintu-language) - this is the german page About the Language and on the wintu in English: www.winnememwintu.uswww.salmoncomehome.comchicheman
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Post by chicheman on Apr 1, 2012 4:31:20 GMT -5
Hello, I´m from Germany and do read already for over a year here. It is a great forum, one of great quality. I wanted to register already earlier, but somehow didn´t get it done. Finally I was able to do so. My interest for Native American people and cultures goes back for a long time. I´m glad to have friends among some tribes of woodland and plains cultures. Also being involved a little bit in a few projects, informing people sometimes about that. Personally I´m interested a lot in the situation of Native Languages today, as well as things of past and present. I may not be able to be here on a daily basis probably, but in intervalls. I´ll post some things you may find of interest. Best wishes and have a good time, chicheman
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