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Post by dT on May 7, 2017 8:21:44 GMT -5
It would be a tragedy if the Lakota language disapoeared. But i understand the great challenges you are describing.
I think your best bet is to develop a Learning System for the Lakota language. Try going down to your local bookstore. Look at all the booka and audio tapes on foreign languages. All those people faced a similar problem ... how do we teach our language to other people - including our own children? I think that if you explore, you will find some good ideas!
Finally - my impression is that the next 25 years will be the greatest challenge that the Indigenous People of the world have ever faced. Many, many tribes and cultures will disappear altogether. The reasons are just what you say: (1) The Dominant Culture is very destructive towards Native lifestyles. (2) Many young people in indigenous cultures don't see the point of investing a lot of time to learn their own culture well. It does take a lot of time and effort.
Not many tribes will make it to the year 2030. I hope the Lakotas will be survivors!!
Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Apr 1, 2017 13:09:05 GMT -5
redpaint ... I did not ever answer your post ... redpaint Avatar redpaint Mar 8, 2015 at 4:20pm Quote likePost Options dT Dan Thrapp, a well known Apache historian, wrote an entire book on Sieber, "Al Sieber Chief of Scouts" It's a good read and will tell you anything you wanted to know about Sieber. He was an interesting character and nobody messed around with him. Of interesting note is Sieber's performance at the battle of Big Dry Wah.
Thank you. I will try to get a copy of this book.
tiswin ... to answer your question. Bronco Apaches raided in Arixona & Mexico for some time after Geronimos surrender. Big Foot Maasai also disapoeared into the wilderness at this time, after his great escape. It is thought that Apache bloodlines still exist in the mtns of northern Mexico ... perhaps existing still today.
dT
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Post by dT on Apr 1, 2017 8:01:52 GMT -5
thanks for posting this book. i will take a look, and if i like the research, i will certainly buy a copy.
Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Mar 15, 2017 15:22:12 GMT -5
Thank you Second. That was very helpful. I dont know if the names and clans of these Dineh warriors were recorded - or if they are lost forever. It is possible that the Dineh people dont know this information ... but maybe somewhere there is a Dineh historian who knows something. The Dineh warriors - who fought with the Apaches - are mentioned in the book by Jason Betzinez. And he wrote that they were brave fighters.
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Post by dT on Mar 12, 2017 18:28:26 GMT -5
Jasper4 ... just to let you know. i had a friend many tears ago, an Indian, who served in Marine Recon in Vietnam. his last name was Somera. It has been a very long time ... i dont know what happened to him. he never told me what tribe he belonged to. But he was a very strong warrior ... very very strong.
Best Wishes, Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Mar 4, 2017 18:05:49 GMT -5
very likely the same place. but i think that this lake was not a myth. the old-time warriors and chiefs were very wise about nature. they knew what they were talking about. i wonder if this place still exists?
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Post by dT on Feb 25, 2017 19:19:27 GMT -5
Tóhaŋni wólakȟota kiŋ hé uŋglúžužupi šni. “We never cancelled that treaty.
These words bring a smile to my heart. Very true. You should paint these words on a BIG SIGN, and put it somewhere - where it is very visible. Not just on reservation land. But maybe close to a major freeway, on the lands where these problems happened.
The truth has a power!
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Post by dT on Feb 24, 2017 18:07:59 GMT -5
ALSO .. if we look at the photos shown by Bobby and Kayitah on Page 1 of this discussion. We DONT think that the man on the right (the right side of Bobby's images) is the same man as the Apache shown in Kayitah's photo. We think the eyes are different.
But ... its only one opinion.
Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Feb 24, 2017 18:00:55 GMT -5
Thanks to Bobby for showing the two photos side-by-side. Yes, Geronimo is old.
We think the man on the right is 55-58 years old. But younger than 60 years. I wanted to get the opinion of my wife, because she is half-Indian and so she is better at judging faces.
Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Feb 20, 2017 11:07:56 GMT -5
Another helpful source on Mickey Free is the book by Britton Davis. "The truth about Geronimo". Davis served with the US Army, and worked constantly with Mickey Free. Therefore, this is one of the most credible sources about Free. Here are the words ...
"Mickey Free, five feet five, slim but muscular, was the son of an Irish father and a Mexican mother. He had lost the sight of one eye which gave him a sinister appearance. Captured by the Apache when he was a small child, his life was spent amongst them and he had become for all intents and purposes an Apache; was married to an Apache, dressed as an Apache, and lived as the Scouts lived." Britton Davis
From the same source, it becomes clear that a lot of people did not trust Mickey Free. Referring to Al Sieber, who was the chief of the Scouts, Davis says this ... "Sieber's opinion of him (Mickey Free) could not be printed in polite words."
It is very clear from Davis' account that the main reason the cavalry was using Free was because the man spoke the Apache language, and he also spoke some Spanish. Davis spoke some Spanish. So Free was primarily used as an interpreter. Davis was aware that Mickey Free was not always telling the complete truth, but was changing the translations. But Davis never caught Free telling an obvious and direct lie - Mickey Free was a skilled liar and only changed things on occasion.
best wishes, Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Feb 16, 2017 16:58:56 GMT -5
This reply is very late. and i can only suggest small things.
The Blood were well known to the Crow tribe in America. It might be fair to say that when those tribes fought, the Blood were the most feared enemy of the Crow (even more than the Lakota). Therefore, if you can talk to Crow historians, they might be able to help a little bit.
Good luck, Pete, dT
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Post by dT on Feb 16, 2017 16:48:41 GMT -5
Carlo ... just saw this. i know my reply is very late. Sorry to hear this bad news. 56 years is very young. Its difficult to lose the historians of the tribes, because their knowledge is so important.
Best Wishes, Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Feb 16, 2017 15:52:40 GMT -5
Georg
very interesting. i have never been to Phantom Lake.
Just guess ... maybe there is something unusual about the land and the vegetation beside the lake. So if a person looks from various places, maybe the reflected light causes the lake to 'disappear'.
Like I said. Only a guess.
dT
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Post by dT on Feb 16, 2017 15:41:40 GMT -5
Ronnie ... thanks for your reply. I will try to make more contact with the AZ and NM tribal members later this year.
Its OK if replies take a long time. This forum is like that. But i appreciate the effort of every Nde member who shares their knowledge.
I am happy to hear that the Nde language is alive and well !!
Best Wishes, Pete (dT)
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Post by dT on Feb 12, 2017 6:11:30 GMT -5
Mithlo ... greetings also, my friend.
Redpaint. Perhaps you can set aside your sarcasm. Why do you think that the change in the names of the Fort is important?
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