As for the first picture, I always thought Grass was considerably taller than Gall and the date's got to be at least late 80s, maybe early 90s, judging from the dress and the physical appearance of Gall.
Last Edit: Dec 2, 2008 15:03:07 GMT -5 by grahamew
...if it is Gall at all. The more I look at it...from the face he also could be Big Head. Or...?
Thanks for the close-up. I love studying all the faces in such goup photographs. Still don´t know who the pipe-bearer is. He has a broad face like the Cheyenne Bobtail had. But the inscription says Oglala...
It's Spotted Tail (centre) and (part of?) a Brule delegation taken by Bell in Washington, 1881. At HIS right is his son, Iron Wing; at the far right is White Thunder, whom Young Spotted Tail (Iron Wing) killed in 1884.
The photo was taken in 1880, during the visit of a Brulé-Oglala delegation which afterwards stopped to visit Carlisle.
Grahame,I'm curious about the information of Iron Wing being a son of Spotted Tail - where did you find it? According to Hyde, originally Swift Bear and Old Man Crazy Horse (aka Worm) were selected to join the Brulé delegation, but for some reason (bad health?) they were later replaced with Black Crow, a son-in-law of Spotted Tail (who later plotted against him with Crow Dog and was put on trial, but convicted) and Iron Wing.
I think that Iron Wing and Spotted Tail jr. were in fact two different persons. Here's Spotted Tail jr.:
The Indian at Spotted Tail's left could be Likes the Bear, Lower Brulé.
Yes, it was Little Spotted Tail to kill White Thunder and his father in 1884.
Iron Wing was indeed the first one to get on the scene of Spotted Tail's shooting, getting hold of Crow Dog and preventing him to fire a second time; right after that, Two Strike, Ring Thunder and He Dog came along too.
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