wyman
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Post by wyman on Sept 27, 2014 16:52:14 GMT -5
Hi Kingsley, I read with great interest the testimony of Leo Combing that you posted. In your follow up post you stated that it was made available to you by friends of yours at Cheyenne River. I am thinking that these probate inquiries were conducted by BIA examiners originally, and as such should be publically available. It is just a matter of contacting the correct agency and making arrangements with the proper authority to view the documents. I think the probates of other related Crazy Horse family members should be examined. The southern plains tribal probate records are housed at the Wichita Agency in Anadarko, OK. You can view their site here. www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php?title=Anadarko_Area_Office . There should be another office for northern tribal probate records, or at least a Lakota records office. |
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Post by hreinn on Dec 8, 2014 11:33:37 GMT -5
It is wrong what was written in this thread on January 9, 2012.
About who were Eagle Elk's siblings.
Because according to Donald Collier's field notes, based on an interview with Eagle Elk himself.
Eagle Elk's siblings were:
1. Walking Elk
2. Red Crow
3. Windy Woman
and a half brother (same father, different mother):
4. Yellow Thigh
There seems to be NO primary source NOR Lakota source existing for:
1. a sibling link of Eagle Elk to Red Day, Long Woman and Looking Horse.
2. Makes the Song and Red Kettle having been married
3. Red Kettle having been grandmother of Crazy Horse or Eagle Elk.
4. Pretty Feather Woman having been a daughter of Makes the Song (and Red Kettle)
All these family relations are just speculations or educated guess by LaDeane Miller.
As was posted and discussed based on these speculative family links, in this thread on Sept 7 and 8, 2011 and Jan 9, 2012.
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wind
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Post by wind on Apr 23, 2015 4:56:08 GMT -5
I`d like to present you my watercolour portrait of Tashunke Witko |
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Post by dT on Apr 24, 2015 0:09:13 GMT -5
I understand the deep significance of Crazy Horse. and his prophecies were important to ALL people, and not just Lakotas!!
BUT would we really want to live a life like Crazy Horse? Consider the sacrifice involved. He accomplished great things, but he also paid a terrible price ... his mother committed suicide when he was a young boy. Crazy Horse had deep issues because of that. Crazy Horse had deep struggles about women and abandonment, he had a difficult time maintaining close relationships ... I t was a high price for him.
How his visions came about, and WHY they were so different - I think that Lakotas would give different answers. Please do not misunderstand - those visions were VERY IMPORTANT. But for people like Crazy Horse ... Some people lead lives that are exceptional and very different.
dT
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Post by blacklyon22 on Jul 27, 2015 22:51:38 GMT -5
How does Lavern Charles Fast Horse fit in all of this?
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Post by dT on Jul 29, 2015 8:57:57 GMT -5
wind - THANK YOU for the excellent watercolor portrait.
That was a great contribution. Blessings!!!
dT
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Post by hreinn on Aug 15, 2015 8:43:02 GMT -5
How does Lavern Charles Fast Horse fit in all of this? Who is/was Lavern Charles Fast Horse ? What is/was his family background ? |
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Post by jalbers1147 on Apr 10, 2016 11:35:32 GMT -5
hreinn - What was Crazy Horse's family like?
- Did Crazy Horse have to take care of himself?
- Did Crazy Horse like his family?
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Post by hreinn on Apr 11, 2016 3:49:34 GMT -5
jalbers1147,
These are tricky questions which are difficult to answer.
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Post by ladonna on Apr 12, 2016 10:28:53 GMT -5
oh my three question would take a book,
you have to know our culture to understand the questions
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Post by cankpeopi on Feb 11, 2018 15:05:51 GMT -5
Well done hreinn! As mentioned before, we will have to debate the issue for a long time. I myself consider a multi-dimensional approach in such matters very use- and helpful. We can’t exclude any reasonably source if we want to have a reliable result. Neither written documents of the dominant culture, nor family or oral traditions of the Lakota. We have to be careful not only about old paperwork, but also about alleged oral traditions. I myself have already experienced cases where the “oral tradition” originated from books and/or documents of the 19th century. The discussion is open now. Again, thank you for the compilation, Gregor. |
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Post by cankpeopi on Feb 11, 2018 15:07:12 GMT -5
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Post by cankpeopi on Feb 11, 2018 15:08:50 GMT -5
The above document is a letter from the department of interior on replacement of Old Man Crazy Horse after his death Fall 1881. Letter is November 23 1881. Old Man Crazy Horse is also knowns as Wagluha. His replacement is said to be Eagle Hawk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 13:39:29 GMT -5
Hau mitaku epi,
Today I had read this publication and was amazing.Its wrong,from first tame I meet that lone Horn and.One Horn was two deferrnt persons.In another case two of Lone Horn sons-Frog and Roman nose aka Hook nose,Roaring nose are present lake one person.Where is the truth
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 9:27:33 GMT -5
my friend (Sr.)from the clown family in 1837 a treaty was signed by Grandfather WAR EAGLE*(RIANNETAKB) Unsure of the spelling, But, IN 1837 THERE WAS NAKOTA DAKOTA LAKOTA Already, there was 6 that signed in 1837, War Eagle, Father was GOOD THUNDER his Grandfather Big hand, all dakotas, *the iowa territory(president van buren), they are crazy horse family i was told strait from a sr. clown member
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