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Post by jeroen on Nov 29, 2012 3:25:16 GMT -5
Taken when he met with Buffalo Bill Cody:
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Post by jeroen on Nov 29, 2012 3:22:04 GMT -5
Her is another image of Dohasan the Younger...
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Post by jeroen on Nov 26, 2012 7:35:30 GMT -5
As far as I can tell, Britten estimates that there are about 1000 people who identify themselves as Lipan Apache. Efforts are being made to bring as many people together as possible to make a valid claim for formal recognition, but the book was published in 2009, so we have to look for more recent sources for more actual developments.
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Post by jeroen on Nov 26, 2012 7:30:05 GMT -5
A friend sent me info about two new books that are due to come out next year: The wrath of Cochise Let's hope it will include new info in addition to Sweeney's standard book about Cochise and perhaps even more interesting: From Fort Marion to Fort Sill Amazon gives the following intro: From 1886 to 1913, hundreds of Chiricahua Apache men, women, and children lived and died as prisoners of war in Florida, Alabama, and Oklahoma. Their names, faces, and lives have long been forgotten by history, and for nearly one hundred years these individuals have been nothing more than statistics in the history of the United States’ tumultuous war against the Chiricahua Apache.
Based on extensive archival research, From Fort Marion to Fort Sill offers long-overdue documentation of the lives and fate of many of these people. This outstanding reference work provides individual biographies for hundreds of the Chiricahua Apache prisoners of war, including those originally classified as POWs in 1886, infants who lived only a few days, children removed from families and sent to Indian boarding schools, and second-generation POWs who lived well into the twenty-first century. Their biographies are often poignant and revealing, and more than sixty previously unpublished photographs give a further glimpse of their humanity.
This masterful documentary work, based on the unpublished research notes of former Fort Sill historian Gillett Griswold, at last brings to light the lives and experiences of hundreds of Chiricahua Apaches whose story has gone untold for too long.
I also received Robert Utley's new biography on Geronimo about a week ago. Well written, as might be expected from this great historian, but so far, very little new info. It relies heavily on Sweeney, as far as I can judge. I am about half way through by now. Also, Sweeney is working on a new book, again on Cochise. Does anybody know more about this?
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Post by jeroen on Nov 18, 2012 6:57:42 GMT -5
Great effort coeurrouge... I add these...
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Post by jeroen on Nov 18, 2012 6:46:45 GMT -5
Wonderful Kayitah! I agree, it has been way to quiet... like coeurrouge, I read the boards daily, but was not inspired that much... hope we'll get is as lively as before...
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Post by jeroen on Oct 26, 2012 11:46:47 GMT -5
Skin tin day, identified as a scout and medicine man:
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Post by jeroen on Oct 26, 2012 11:42:48 GMT -5
Yet another Geronimo image, taken in 1903:
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Post by jeroen on Oct 26, 2012 11:36:37 GMT -5
I also find it hard to identify Yanozha, front row second from right perhaps?
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Perico
Jul 31, 2012 6:21:57 GMT -5
Post by jeroen on Jul 31, 2012 6:21:57 GMT -5
That is a wonderful image Mithlo... never seen it before... thanks! Gregor, that is as far as I got also, I am also looking for his Apache name... And also for the meaning of the names Yanozha and Tsisnah... thank you...
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Post by jeroen on Jul 29, 2012 2:58:47 GMT -5
An alternate version of the portrait above posted by Bobby, taken in february 1912. There are several images of that session. On that same occasion several photos of Chatto were also taken. The two men visited the studio (?) together (which would make sense for they were related and said to be on friendly terms)... I am still searching for the day and year of death of Naiche... so far I got March 16th 1919, March 19th 1919 and, in many sources the year 1921. Anyone knows which is the correct one?
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Post by jeroen on Jul 29, 2012 2:46:50 GMT -5
Colle/Cathlay was Chokonen and so was likely with Naiche. I am not sure he and Taza where friends, but he, or his father by the same name, was one of Cochise's headmen... and he did go Taza and Naiche to San Carlos in 1876. He also joined Naiche in the flight to Mexico to Mexico in 1881. On the other hand, he was in the Ulzana raid of 1885 (at least he was a chosen member but was wounded early on) and he joined Chihuahua and Ulzana to Florida rather than go with Naiche...
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Cochise
Jul 29, 2012 2:40:31 GMT -5
Post by jeroen on Jul 29, 2012 2:40:31 GMT -5
I agree with Gregor that the painting feels like pure imagination. Still, I do think that Sutter did have a sketch or eye witness account of some sort on which he based this portrait, perhaps the Samuel Cozzens sketch for there is some resemblance there... The feather was probably added to make him look more Indian. The headband and scarf indicate that Sutter was an artist of limited ability. I don't think there is an authentic photograph or that Cochise actually sat to have his painting made. So far, Sladen's account, edited by Sweeney, remains the best source of what kind of man Cochise was and how he may have looked like, along with the short describtions by Arny, Safford, Howard, Jeffords and Bourke.
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Post by jeroen on Jul 11, 2012 9:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Jul 11, 2012 9:34:35 GMT -5
Another rare profile portrait of Geronimo:
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