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Post by jeroen on Oct 17, 2017 12:05:45 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Jan 23, 2014 10:36:06 GMT -5
I was attended to a new book that is due to come out in July. It is the third "Apache book" in the osprey publishing series, more specifically in their warrior series:
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Nana
Nov 30, 2013 6:05:19 GMT -5
Post by jeroen on Nov 30, 2013 6:05:19 GMT -5
Said to be Nana, Mount Vernon 1891...
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Post by jeroen on Oct 10, 2013 1:38:57 GMT -5
Wonderful Naiches!!! Never seen this one before! There must be yet another version, with only Geronimo in front and several soldiers...
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Post by jeroen on Jul 23, 2013 3:48:09 GMT -5
You do not upset me at all, I like you being frank and open. You do not need to be my friend either, as I did not ask you to. But I am not your enemy either, in fact I agree with all you say. You pour out a lot of irritations and I can imagine it is frustrating to see and read so many so called facts and statements about your own people, your own family. Speaking five languages and having lived in many places, in different countries and continents, I have learned the meaning of the word identity. I am no 'historian', I am not an Apache, but I am sincerly interested in Apache culture and history and, like you, I like to have the facts straight. Again, I do agree with you. But that does not change the fact that I don't think the picture actually shows Taza. History, all history, is a matter of interpretation. You can stand by your opinion (as you write in your first post) and that is fine, but I am simply not convinced. Nothing wrong with having a different opinion on the id of an 1876 photograph now is there? all the best, Jeroen
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Post by jeroen on Jul 22, 2013 2:57:32 GMT -5
I am with pullingup on this one... I always understood that Taza came from Daza, meaning stout or well built, close to Big Guy. If his name means Big Guy, then one would expect him to be bigger than Cullah... but the purported Taza picture shows a smaller man. Also, both images show only part of the delegation which numbered 22 Apaches. Also, like Naiche points out, Naiche was taller, Geronimo was 5,8 and in all photographs Naiche is clearly much taller. Lt. Davis, who knew Naiche, states he was about 6,1. It would make sense for Taza to be in the pictures for he was among the most prominent members of the delegation. However, I don't recall exactly where, but I think I once read that the photographs were taken near the end of their trip (when Taza was ill/ already passed away)... Knowing exactly when the pictures were taken would certainly help...
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Post by jeroen on Jul 22, 2013 2:35:06 GMT -5
I bought a copy of that book and received it yesterday...It looks great and very complete, lots of useful info and a series of nice photographs, including some new ones (at least, for me). Extra is a the series of of well reproduced color drawings by Goklitz, done while in Mount Vernon. I still have to read the book but I guess it is well worth the price... a fine addition, particularly for the List of 500 POW project...
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Post by jeroen on May 14, 2013 0:45:31 GMT -5
I think you're right Naiches... also about the Alabama possibility (Ahwahnechee sounds like Southeastern Indian, perhaps a local place name?)...
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Post by jeroen on Apr 26, 2013 12:11:43 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Apr 25, 2013 15:16:11 GMT -5
Great image Naiches! I'd say Fort Sill, 1910's, but do you know exactly were and when this picture was taken?
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Post by jeroen on Apr 25, 2013 13:04:10 GMT -5
I finally got around reading The Wrath of Cochise, a just released book by Terry Mort. In my opinion it is not the best book on Cochise, it adds nothing new, except the author's opinion which I do not share in most instances. To me it is yet another typical American historian's book with a limited understanding of Cochise and Chiricahua culture. Also, fully half of the book does not deal with what you would expect from the title. There is, for instance, a large section on West Point to show how Bascom was formed and trained. Also a chapter about the Chiricahua but a strong emphasis on raiding. A casual reader would get the impression that the Apaches were little more than raiders, killers and thieves. The best thing going for the book is that it makes for easy reading... It can't compare with Sweeney's work on Cochise in any way, but that is just my opinion... Anybody else read the book yet?
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Post by jeroen on Apr 25, 2013 12:11:54 GMT -5
I have to agree with Naiches on this one my friend...
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Post by jeroen on Mar 14, 2013 7:59:12 GMT -5
In my opinion, the man sitting on the box is indeed Laziyah, the same man sitting on the porch in the image series taken early september in Fort Bowie...
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Post by jeroen on Mar 14, 2013 7:55:08 GMT -5
I am not sure about his name, but this photograph is part of a series taken in 1927 by T.J. Hileman of Kainah (Blood) people in Alberta, Canada. The Kainah are, of course, part of the Blackfoot confederacy.
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Post by jeroen on Nov 29, 2012 3:41:20 GMT -5
I have not finished the book yet, but so far, I think Utley based his story pretty much on the research done by Sweeney and he readily admits so much in his foreword. This also goes for the 1860-70 period. Like in most books, there are the inevitable errors with identifications in the photographs (mix up of Fun-Tsisnah, who is even said to be one of Geronimo's sons...) and I don't agree with all his assumptions and conclusions, but Utley does he great job in portraying Geronimo as a real person...
My Italian friend Paolo emailed me and said the new Sweeney manuscript, about Cochise, his interviews and much previously unpublished material, will probably be titled Cochise Talks, and is now being reviewed by Oklahoma Press. If approved, it will be published in the fall of 2013. Thanks Paolo!
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