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Post by emilylevine on Aug 4, 2022 12:22:14 GMT -5
As the captions says, that is Little Chief. (On the Pine Ridge rez.)
Not the Cheyenne Little Wolf.
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Post by kingsleybray on Aug 5, 2022 11:45:38 GMT -5
Can I ask you, Emily, what project you're working involving Little Wolf?
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 6, 2022 7:56:15 GMT -5
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 8, 2022 13:08:25 GMT -5
Thanks, Deitmar. I used a lot of their images for Witness, but hadn't thought to look for Little Wolf there. Thanks so much!
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 8, 2022 13:15:47 GMT -5
Hi Kingsley
I was asked to submit a chapter for the new edition of The Atlas of Sandhills, "something about Indians." (eyeroll)
I chose to tell the story of Little Wolf and the Cheyenne Exodus 1878-79, how they hid all winter at Lost Chokecherry Lake, and how the story was first researched and told by Mari Sandoz. How she identified the lake out of the zillion possibilities---and it turned out to be on her brother's land.
I did A LOT of research but had to end up cutting the "chapter" down to almost nothing, as they're going with more of a coffeetable book now, not an atlas. I think it's now just called The Sandhills. Sadly they are only using three of the six illustrations I had already culled my choices down to.
Out next year from NU Press.
I hope I'm not too lazy to develop my original chapter into a full article and get it published somewhere . . . .
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Aug 10, 2022 14:15:58 GMT -5
I hope it does make it into a full article Emily, will be an interesting read!
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Apr 16, 2023 11:46:19 GMT -5
Hi Grahame, in light of the recently reactivated thread on Swan/Roman Nose ( here), would you be able to repost Gardner's 1868 Fort Laramie photo of the Crow leaders please?
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Post by grahamew on Apr 16, 2023 14:21:11 GMT -5
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Apr 17, 2023 4:36:46 GMT -5
Thank you Grahame. I assume that the photo in the middle has all the Mountain Crow and Kicked In The Bellies representatives who signed the 1868 treaty, except one (there were eleven). They were: Pretty Bull, Wolf Bow, Mountain Tail, Blackfoot, White Horse, Poor Elk, Shot In The Jaw, White Forehead, Pounded Meat, Bird In The Neck, and Swan. Have you, or someone else, managed to identify them on the photo? Maybe the eleventh is on one of the other photos.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 17, 2023 5:05:00 GMT -5
Blackfoot - I'm thinking he's the tall man in the buffalo robe - fourth from left. I've always understood that Pretty Bull is at the right. From here: go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A199122106&v=2.1&it=r&sid=AONE&asid=05935c51"From left to right they are Dr. Washington Mathews; Mountain Tail; Blackfoot; Pounded Meat; Winking Eye; White Fawn; White Horse; Poor Elk; Shot in the Jaw; Crow; and Pretty Bull." "Gardner identified the individuals from left as Grey Blanket; White Horse; White Fawn; a child; Blackfoot; Yellow Bull; Little Face (seated at center); and an unidentified woman." "Gardner identified the people in this photo, from the left, as Fox Tail; a woman; Yellow Bull; Yellow Fox; Bull Goes Hunting; Yellow Coat; and Walks on Ice." So, if the other identifications are correct: white guy, Yellow Coat, Fox Tail, white guy, Yellow Bull, Bull Goes Hunting
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Post by rawhide on Apr 17, 2023 12:10:33 GMT -5
I'd say that in the last photo it is Blackfoot, not Yellow Bull, second Crow from right. About Swan, I have no idea. That person sitting in the middle is very interesting, as it looks like he is very much at home with the Crows. The choices are John Jr., Shene, R Gallegos(does not look like him at all), Louis Richard and M Boyer. I have not found any proof that Boyer was there at that time.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 18, 2023 2:13:40 GMT -5
Well, we know the annotation of Gardner's photos isn't always correct and this does look like Blackfoot - in both photos.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 18, 2023 18:15:38 GMT -5
Hi guys, I think these blown-up comparisons help to distinguish Blackfoot from Yellow Bull: Blackfoot on left; Yellow Bull on right (3x)
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 19, 2023 5:37:13 GMT -5
What makes it messy is that in the photo with agent Matthews Blackfoot is in the heavy buffalo robe, that Yellow Bull is wearing in the comparison above.
Btw, it is Dr. Henry M. Matthews of St. Louis, not Washington Matthews, the better known military surgeon.
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Post by kiyuksa96 on Jan 27, 2024 2:07:34 GMT -5
Does anyone have the rest of the treaty images? i've been looking for the ones that show the man with the silver concho head piece.
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