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Post by grahamew on Jan 1, 2015 6:36:38 GMT -5
On ebay, credited to J. H. Hamilton - a posed scalping... I wonder if they were taken during his period at Red Cloud and Spotted Tail in 1877...
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 11, 2016 8:59:12 GMT -5
I´ve seen this photograph of James H. Hamilton so often identified as a Sioux (sometimes Yankton) peace council, it can´t be bad to state again that the people in the picture are Omahas! The men in the front row can be identified by comparing them to other portraits by Hamilton. Please let me know if there are corrections needed. Indian Council by J. H. Hamilton, Sioux City, Iowa What else do we know about this council scene? Do we have an exact date, for example? The white man on chair (left) perhaps could be agent Theodore T. Gillingham.The white men far left is possibly Omaha agent Edward Painter. Painter was agent from 1869 to September 1873, when T. T. Gillingham succeeded him.
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Post by jones on Sept 17, 2016 12:26:09 GMT -5
Is it possible that the stereoview photograph was made during the UPRR excursion of 1866? The guest on that train ride were entertained by mock battles &c. It was one of the earliest so-called "Wild West Shows". I learned of it from Richard Gould. He may be able to add some insight. amertribes.proboards.com/thread/495/pawnee-informationGreetings from the Pawnee Indian Museum near Republic, Kansas I will periodically add Pawnee photographs from our collections. If there are any qustions about the Pawnees I may be able to help with our research sources. Richard Gould, Administrator PS hello Dietmar! ........ UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD EXCURSION TO THE 100th MERIDIAN, October 1866 Arrowing west from Omaha City in Nebraska Territory, the Union Pacific Railroad was a full year ahead of its construction schedule. Planning to have 247 miles of track in place by the end of 1867, they had reached that point by October 1866. To advertise this incredible progress to the shareholders as well as Eastern bankers and members of Congress, the Directors of the co,pant planned an elaborate and costly celebration to take place in the middle of the wilderness. . . John Carbutt, the noted Chicago photographer and stereoview publisher had been hired by the Union Pacific to document the entire affair, so it was here that he and his assistant, Mr. Hines, loaded their cumbersome photographic supplies onto the train. . . The train was stopped on a high embackment overlooking the Pawnee camp for the morning's entertainment-- this time a sham battle. The Pawmee braves, disguised as Sioux warriors, attempted to creep up on the camp but were discovered. With shrieks and cries of vengeance, the Pawnees went on the attack. . . One last surprise entertainment had been arranged to enliven the trip back to Omaha--a Prairie Fire! The flames extended in an unbroken line for 15 to 20 miles and one end of this holocaust was so near the party could feel the heat as the flames roared over the plains. . . The most extensive collections of Carbutt's Excursion views are those of the Union Pacific Archives in Omaha and the President Hayes Library in Fremont, Ohio. ...... THE GOLDEN AGE OF WESTERN PHOTOGRAPHY 1858--1875 Hamilton with various partners and individuals named Hamilton (C.L. Hamilton, J.H. Hamilton, Hamilton and Hoyt, Hamilton and Kodlylek) and studios in Nebraska and Iowa.
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 18, 2016 6:24:12 GMT -5
Thank you jones, but I still believe the photograph must have been taken between 1869 and 1873, when Edward Painter was agent of the Omahas. Here´s Painter in two other pics with Omaha school children: Edward Painter Edward Painter This is another picture from the same Hamilton session:
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 18, 2016 7:03:39 GMT -5
To me it is likely that part of the Omaha group also made a delegation trip to the East. At least three of these Omaha men were portraited by - as it seems - another photographer in a studio setting in this previously unidentified picture: front row: White Horse, Louis Sanssouci, Little Chief
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 16, 2017 10:15:54 GMT -5
There´s a collage of James H. Hamilton photographs at the Sioux City Public Museum´s site. Some of these portraits are previously unseen. www.virtualcollections.siouxcitymuseum.org/1889-photoDoes anyone have identifications and bigger pictures of the small samples above? Roman Nose, Minicojou, in the left lower corner. White Thunder, Sicangu in the right lower corner. Crow´s Breast, Hidatsa, in the center. Of the above samples, I got these pictures, but unidentified: (I´ve seen her identified somewhere as a daughter of Spotted Tail) This is possibly the same photograph as in the collage above:
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Post by grahamew on Jul 16, 2017 11:08:09 GMT -5
The man you have in the army jacket with the river backdrop features in another photo with the same backdrop, but he's stripped to leggings and breechclout and wearing a horned bonnet. I have no idea who he is. The man in the centre right with the dentalium necklace is the Huffman photo usually identified as Little Big Man (but is it? Or of it is, is it the ame LBM? How would Huffman have been in a position to photograph him?). The man centre top is the Hamilton photo identified as Sioux Jim, but as Ephriam pointed out elsewhere, it isn't; it's a Winnebago. I think the photo of the woman you've identified as a daughter of Spotted Tail is a Mitchell - the blanket backdrop and position of the dark band van be seen in othet Mitchell photos. The guy between her and Roman Nose is an Arikara, Iron Horse (taken by Goff, I think). Underneath Crow's Breast is the Arikara that Hamilton mis-labelled as Crazy Horse, Chak-uk-T-Kee. Does the guy to the left of Crow's Breast look like Sharp Nose? Isn't the reclining man Standing Buffalo, the Winnebago? The woman at bottom right is the woman identified as Nellie Laravie, but I'm guessing she's Winnebago - same with the couple at the left. I have no idea who the other two are and I'd love to see better shots of the group photos!
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Post by grahamew on Jul 16, 2017 12:55:43 GMT -5
Chak-uk-T-Kee, Arikara (Hamilton - or is it a Gurnsey?) Iron Horse, Arikara (Goff?) The man in the army jacket - I have him labelled as Sitting Soldier, Sicangu. I have him labelled elsewhere as 'medicine man' 'Sioux Jim' - a Winnebago, not Sioux Jim I have this as Sioux Jim's daughter, an Arapaho woman and 4th of July. I think the woman top left is Spotted Tail's daughter, so maybe the one with the baby is Sioux Jim's daughter - the daughter of the actual Sioux Jim - or maybe it's someone else being sold on the back of Sioux Jim's notoriety. Little Big Man(?) - Huffman? Standing Buffalo, Winnebago "Nellie Laravie"
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Post by grahamew on Jul 17, 2017 8:38:47 GMT -5
Have to admit that the 'Sitting Soldier' here looks nothing like the Sitting Soldier in the Morrow photograph...
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Post by peter on Sept 19, 2017 15:02:30 GMT -5
Chak-uk-T-Kee, Arikara (Hamilton - or is it a Gurnsey?) Iron Horse, Arikara (Goff?) The man in the army jacket - I have him labelled as Sitting Soldier, Sicangu. I have him labelled elsewhere as 'medicine man' 'Sioux Jim' - a Winnebago, not Sioux Jim I have this as Sioux Jim's daughter, an Arapaho woman and 4th of July. I think the woman top left is Spotted Tail's daughter, so maybe the one with the baby is Sioux Jim's daughter - the daughter of the actual Sioux Jim - or maybe it's someone else being sold on the back of Sioux Jim's notoriety. Little Big Man(?) - Huffman Standing Buffalo, Winnebago "Nellie Laravie"
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Post by peter on Sept 19, 2017 15:04:32 GMT -5
The Little Big Man photo is an Hamilton photo in is Catalogue Views he marks it as # 153 and Spotted tail daughter is # 167
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Post by grahamew on Sept 20, 2017 6:58:44 GMT -5
Lakota woman by Hamilton:
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 3, 2017 16:12:57 GMT -5
According to our member Peter this portrait of an unidentified 'Warrior with War Bonnet' is # 151 of Hamilton's Stereoscopic Views of the Northwest series: Here is another Hamilton picture, again unidentified:
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Post by peter on Oct 4, 2017 17:21:32 GMT -5
Chak-uk-T-Kee, Arikara (Hamilton - or is it a Gurnsey?) Iron Horse, Arikara (Goff?) The man in the army jacket - I have him labelled as Sitting Soldier, Sicangu. I have him labelled elsewhere as 'medicine man' 'Sioux Jim' - a Winnebago, not Sioux Jim I have this as Sioux Jim's daughter, an Arapaho woman and 4th of July. I think the woman top left is Spotted Tail's daughter, so maybe the one with the baby is Sioux Jim's daughter - the daughter of the actual Sioux Jim - or maybe it's someone else being sold on the back of Sioux Jim's notoriety. Little Big Man(?) - Huffman Standing Buffalo, Winnebago "Nellie Laravie"
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Post by peter on Oct 4, 2017 17:27:06 GMT -5
Dear Dietmar, Standing Buffalo Winnebago it is also a Hamilton Stereoscopic Views Catalogue under, "WINNEBAGO INDIANS" and it is the first one on the Wunnebago list as "Standing Buffalo, chief" #43
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