Post by naiches2 on Jan 22, 2012 15:03:11 GMT -5
The so called “List 500” is a part of a big project that is aimed to define social and political ties between the Chiricahuas at the moment when it was exiled from Arizona to Florida in 1886 and during its imprisonment (1886-1913).
By the beginning of the 80s in the 19th century, the social and political organization Chiricahua was going through a fundamental change due to continued war, changes in the economy and nomadic cycle and because of their living in the reservation. Thus, by 1885 the tribe was divided in groups of “peace” and “war”, plus those who were left in the middle. Groups of “peace” and “war” got radicalized, which caused infighting, leading up to battles and murders. Military and civil authorities of Arizona, that ruled the Apache reservation, couldn’t be unaware of the situation, but preferred not to pay any attention.
The experts of the Apache psychology, such as General Crook, tried to undermine the influence of the old chiefs and defined their own scouts as leaders, but that only destroyed the traditional society.
After the rebellion in May, 1885 some Apaches escaped from the reservation, the others hunted for them along with the regular army soldiers. If during the Victorio's war in 1879-1880 the officers weren’t sure of the scouts’ loyalty, two attacks of the scouts on "hostilies" during Geronimo Campaign (June 23 and August 7, 1885) proved the profound crisis that reigned in the political organization of Chiricahua at the moment.
Even bigger psychological strike was when the peaceful Apaches were exiled from San Carlos reservation in to Florida. They blamed the group of “war” for it, and the latter, on the other hand, blamed the group of “peace” for helping the soldiers in killing their tribesmen. But anyway they had to find common language. Being in a foreign place, surrounded by the English-speaking population, Chiricahua formed an isolated community. Usually they married someone inside their tribe, making new conditions for their social structure. The blood relations won. Warriors and scouts forgot their controversies and learned to coexist and to deal with their captives.
The definition of the Chiricahua’s names in Florida came out to be difficult, as those who arrived from Arizona weren't registered. Also, a lot of Apaches died in the first years of their exile. While living in Florida and Alabama Apaches buried their relatives secretly from the white population. Besides, the existing taboo on pronouncing the names impedes the researches. The list of the Carlisle students could have incluses non-Chiricahua Apache Indians. Some of them also changed their names to the English manner.
The migration process of the Chiricahua had 5 stages
1. the group of the chief Chihuahua
2. the group of Naiche and Geronimo
3. the group from San Carlos
4. the Washington Delegation
5. the group of Mangas
It got possible to name all the delegates from Washington, only adult tribesmen are known from the group of Mangas, the majority of names of the group Geronimo, adult men and some of women from the Chihuahua group were also discovered. A lot of mysteries surrounds the large group from the San Carlos reservation. As it was usual in the American history, only the names of the enemies were written down. Those who wanted to survive, left unknown.
While making “The List 500” I used the following resources:
United States Federal Census Record 1900
United States Federal Census Record 1910
U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914
Beef Creek Apache Cemetery (Comanche County, Oklahoma)
Mescalero Cementry (Whitetail Cemetery, Otero County, New Mexico)
Carlisle Industrial School List and Choate Photos of Carlisle Indian School (in the Photo Archives of the Cumberland County Historical Society).
My special thanks to Mithlo and Penjady who kindly provided information on some personalities.
My list, of course, is not full, there can be mistakes and repetitions, as the names of little-known people were put down in different manners. Nevertheless, I think this work is only the first step in discovering the names of those who died in the catastrophic migration and those who survived the 28 years of exile.
Anyone interested is welcome to the open discussion!
MEN Adults
NAME BORN DIED NOTES
Ah-Dis 1851 – 1895 Father of James Russell and Tom Duffy
Ahnandia Ralf 1864 –1892 Surrender with Geronimo
As-ka-do-dil-ges/Charlie 1850 – ? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
As-toy-eh/Astoyey Benjamin 1862 – 1934
Bacatlay/ Bacuthla abt 1850 – ?
Bah-ga-do 1854 – ?
Behedo Joseph/Too-ah-ka-enny 1865 – 1935
Beshe ‘Old man’ 1838 – after 1900? Surrender with Geronimo
Betzinez Jason 1860 – 1960 Carlisle
Binday Samuel 1858/1843 – 1913
Bish-to-yey 1810 – 1899 Father of Martin Kayihtah
Bon-see ? – d. 1909 Son of Nah-nelth-chithln
Chachu Ambrose 1863/71? – 1899 Carlisle
Chappo Geronimo 1864/67 – 18 Sep.1894 Surrender with Geronimo Carlisle
Chatto Alfred 1856 – 1934
Chechil Richard 1866 – 1893
Chihuahua 1845 – 1901 Surrender with Chihuahua
Chino John 1845/1823 – 1907
Chiva 18?? – 1889 May, 19
Chiricahua Jim /Jim Miller 1859 – 19?? Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Chiricahua Tom/Be-da-zis-shos 1850 – 1926
Colle Benjamin /Cullah 1855 – 1894 Surrender with Chihuahua
Coonie William/Conny 1856/58 - 1930
Co-wash-lay 1866 – ? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Dah-ke-ya Mike 1861 – 1899 Surrender with Chihuahua
Dick Harold/Nahn-tee-nesn 1849/39 – 1929 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Dutchy Fritz 1861– 1893
Eskinilteze abt. 1825– 1886 Surrendered with Mangus
Fatty David 1857/50 – 1934
Francis Benjamin 1860/35 – 1910
Fun Larry/Yiy-zholl 1865 – 1892 Surrender with Geronimo
Geronimo 1829 – 1909 Surrender with Geronimo
Gokliz Frederick 1861 – 1901 San Carlos Apache
Go-nal-tsis /Patricio Nelson ?? – 1892 Chatto’s relative, discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Gooday Talbot 1865/71 – 1962 Carlisle
Guydelkon Paul Sr. 1860/48 – 1932
Hunlona Eli 1865 – 1895 Surrender with Geronimo
Jolsanne/Ulzana 1844 – 1909 Surrender with Chihuahua
Jose First 1858 – 1913
Jose Second 1858 – 19?? Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Juan Pedro/Seegotset abt. 1861 – 1893
Juacinito Walter 1863 – 1892
Kaahteney Jacob 1860/1857 – 1916
Kaydahzinne Tim 1860 – 1915
Kayihtah Martin 1856/45 – 1934
Kilthdigai 1850 – ?? Surrender with Geronimo
Kinzhuna Arnold 1866 – 1941 Carlisle
Kyzha Stephen 1864/66 – 1934
Lahtsenaste/Blind Tom 1862/67 – 1945 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Lancy Giles 1868 - ?? Surrender with Chihuahua
La-zi-yah 1840 – 1896 Surrender with Geronimo
Loco Chief 1823 – 1905
Loco Dexter 1864 – 1926 Carlisle
Mah-ga-do 1857 – 1904 Son of Nah-kesh-ahn
Mangus Carl 1843 - 1901 Surrender with Mangus
Marko Gail 1866 – 1896 Son of Seth-mooda Carlisle
Martine Charles 1858 – 1937
Massai 1874 – 1911 ?
Mithlo Lawrence 1864/61 – 1938
Moh-tsos 1850 – ? Surrendered with Geronimo
Nah-Bay abt. 1841 – ?? Surrendered with Geronimo
Nah-do-zinne 1855 – 19?? Surrendered with Chihuahua
Nah-nal-zhuggi Leo 1861/66 – abt.1920
Nah-to-ah-gahun Arthur 1865 – 1894 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Naiche Christian 1858 – 1919 Surrendered with Geronimo
Nana Chef /Kas-tziden 1800 – 1896 Surrendered with Chihuahua
Nash-tilch-tos/ No'-Stle 1856 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Ne-gun-day 1865 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Nezulkide /Neezh-golth-kisen 1855 – ?? Surrendered with Chihuahua
Ni-losh ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua ?
Noche George 1856 – 1914
No-tolch/ No-talq 1866 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Perico Leon 1854/1847 – 1934 Surrendered with Geronimo
Seeltoe Hugh 1864 – 1894 Surrendered with Chihuahua
Sho-ee/ Shoie ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua
Spitty Erick 1868/55 – 1927
Stalosh ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua ?
Tahyan Ruby 1822 – 1897 Husband of Bey-it-tsun
Tahnitoe John 1855/65 – 1929
Tissnolthtos Jewett 1864/66 – 1936 Surrendered with Geronimo
Toclanny Roger (s) 1863 – 1947
Tooisgah Albert 1861 – 1932
Tsedekizen Waldo/Sundayman 1859 – 1932
Tsisnah Burdette 1866 – 1900 Surrendered with Geronimo, Carlisle
Tzo-Zonne/ Zo-zonne Evans 1860 – 1934
Ya-chee 1857 – ?? Scout
Yah-lo 1857 – ?? Scout
Yanozha Edwin 1866 – 1954 Surrendered with Geronimo
Zamon/Ramon? 1822 – 1898 Husband of Zeh-golth-che-de
Zele/Gil-lee 1822 – 1896
Zhonne Calvin 1866 – 1934 Surrendered with Geronimo, Carlisle
By the beginning of the 80s in the 19th century, the social and political organization Chiricahua was going through a fundamental change due to continued war, changes in the economy and nomadic cycle and because of their living in the reservation. Thus, by 1885 the tribe was divided in groups of “peace” and “war”, plus those who were left in the middle. Groups of “peace” and “war” got radicalized, which caused infighting, leading up to battles and murders. Military and civil authorities of Arizona, that ruled the Apache reservation, couldn’t be unaware of the situation, but preferred not to pay any attention.
The experts of the Apache psychology, such as General Crook, tried to undermine the influence of the old chiefs and defined their own scouts as leaders, but that only destroyed the traditional society.
After the rebellion in May, 1885 some Apaches escaped from the reservation, the others hunted for them along with the regular army soldiers. If during the Victorio's war in 1879-1880 the officers weren’t sure of the scouts’ loyalty, two attacks of the scouts on "hostilies" during Geronimo Campaign (June 23 and August 7, 1885) proved the profound crisis that reigned in the political organization of Chiricahua at the moment.
Even bigger psychological strike was when the peaceful Apaches were exiled from San Carlos reservation in to Florida. They blamed the group of “war” for it, and the latter, on the other hand, blamed the group of “peace” for helping the soldiers in killing their tribesmen. But anyway they had to find common language. Being in a foreign place, surrounded by the English-speaking population, Chiricahua formed an isolated community. Usually they married someone inside their tribe, making new conditions for their social structure. The blood relations won. Warriors and scouts forgot their controversies and learned to coexist and to deal with their captives.
The definition of the Chiricahua’s names in Florida came out to be difficult, as those who arrived from Arizona weren't registered. Also, a lot of Apaches died in the first years of their exile. While living in Florida and Alabama Apaches buried their relatives secretly from the white population. Besides, the existing taboo on pronouncing the names impedes the researches. The list of the Carlisle students could have incluses non-Chiricahua Apache Indians. Some of them also changed their names to the English manner.
The migration process of the Chiricahua had 5 stages
1. the group of the chief Chihuahua
2. the group of Naiche and Geronimo
3. the group from San Carlos
4. the Washington Delegation
5. the group of Mangas
It got possible to name all the delegates from Washington, only adult tribesmen are known from the group of Mangas, the majority of names of the group Geronimo, adult men and some of women from the Chihuahua group were also discovered. A lot of mysteries surrounds the large group from the San Carlos reservation. As it was usual in the American history, only the names of the enemies were written down. Those who wanted to survive, left unknown.
While making “The List 500” I used the following resources:
United States Federal Census Record 1900
United States Federal Census Record 1910
U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914
Beef Creek Apache Cemetery (Comanche County, Oklahoma)
Mescalero Cementry (Whitetail Cemetery, Otero County, New Mexico)
Carlisle Industrial School List and Choate Photos of Carlisle Indian School (in the Photo Archives of the Cumberland County Historical Society).
My special thanks to Mithlo and Penjady who kindly provided information on some personalities.
My list, of course, is not full, there can be mistakes and repetitions, as the names of little-known people were put down in different manners. Nevertheless, I think this work is only the first step in discovering the names of those who died in the catastrophic migration and those who survived the 28 years of exile.
Anyone interested is welcome to the open discussion!
MEN Adults
NAME BORN DIED NOTES
Ah-Dis 1851 – 1895 Father of James Russell and Tom Duffy
Ahnandia Ralf 1864 –1892 Surrender with Geronimo
As-ka-do-dil-ges/Charlie 1850 – ? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
As-toy-eh/Astoyey Benjamin 1862 – 1934
Bacatlay/ Bacuthla abt 1850 – ?
Bah-ga-do 1854 – ?
Behedo Joseph/Too-ah-ka-enny 1865 – 1935
Beshe ‘Old man’ 1838 – after 1900? Surrender with Geronimo
Betzinez Jason 1860 – 1960 Carlisle
Binday Samuel 1858/1843 – 1913
Bish-to-yey 1810 – 1899 Father of Martin Kayihtah
Bon-see ? – d. 1909 Son of Nah-nelth-chithln
Chachu Ambrose 1863/71? – 1899 Carlisle
Chappo Geronimo 1864/67 – 18 Sep.1894 Surrender with Geronimo Carlisle
Chatto Alfred 1856 – 1934
Chechil Richard 1866 – 1893
Chihuahua 1845 – 1901 Surrender with Chihuahua
Chino John 1845/1823 – 1907
Chiva 18?? – 1889 May, 19
Chiricahua Jim /Jim Miller 1859 – 19?? Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Chiricahua Tom/Be-da-zis-shos 1850 – 1926
Colle Benjamin /Cullah 1855 – 1894 Surrender with Chihuahua
Coonie William/Conny 1856/58 - 1930
Co-wash-lay 1866 – ? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Dah-ke-ya Mike 1861 – 1899 Surrender with Chihuahua
Dick Harold/Nahn-tee-nesn 1849/39 – 1929 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Dutchy Fritz 1861– 1893
Eskinilteze abt. 1825– 1886 Surrendered with Mangus
Fatty David 1857/50 – 1934
Francis Benjamin 1860/35 – 1910
Fun Larry/Yiy-zholl 1865 – 1892 Surrender with Geronimo
Geronimo 1829 – 1909 Surrender with Geronimo
Gokliz Frederick 1861 – 1901 San Carlos Apache
Go-nal-tsis /Patricio Nelson ?? – 1892 Chatto’s relative, discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Gooday Talbot 1865/71 – 1962 Carlisle
Guydelkon Paul Sr. 1860/48 – 1932
Hunlona Eli 1865 – 1895 Surrender with Geronimo
Jolsanne/Ulzana 1844 – 1909 Surrender with Chihuahua
Jose First 1858 – 1913
Jose Second 1858 – 19?? Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Juan Pedro/Seegotset abt. 1861 – 1893
Juacinito Walter 1863 – 1892
Kaahteney Jacob 1860/1857 – 1916
Kaydahzinne Tim 1860 – 1915
Kayihtah Martin 1856/45 – 1934
Kilthdigai 1850 – ?? Surrender with Geronimo
Kinzhuna Arnold 1866 – 1941 Carlisle
Kyzha Stephen 1864/66 – 1934
Lahtsenaste/Blind Tom 1862/67 – 1945 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Lancy Giles 1868 - ?? Surrender with Chihuahua
La-zi-yah 1840 – 1896 Surrender with Geronimo
Loco Chief 1823 – 1905
Loco Dexter 1864 – 1926 Carlisle
Mah-ga-do 1857 – 1904 Son of Nah-kesh-ahn
Mangus Carl 1843 - 1901 Surrender with Mangus
Marko Gail 1866 – 1896 Son of Seth-mooda Carlisle
Martine Charles 1858 – 1937
Massai 1874 – 1911 ?
Mithlo Lawrence 1864/61 – 1938
Moh-tsos 1850 – ? Surrendered with Geronimo
Nah-Bay abt. 1841 – ?? Surrendered with Geronimo
Nah-do-zinne 1855 – 19?? Surrendered with Chihuahua
Nah-nal-zhuggi Leo 1861/66 – abt.1920
Nah-to-ah-gahun Arthur 1865 – 1894 Surrender with Chihuahua ?
Naiche Christian 1858 – 1919 Surrendered with Geronimo
Nana Chef /Kas-tziden 1800 – 1896 Surrendered with Chihuahua
Nash-tilch-tos/ No'-Stle 1856 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Ne-gun-day 1865 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Nezulkide /Neezh-golth-kisen 1855 – ?? Surrendered with Chihuahua
Ni-losh ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua ?
Noche George 1856 – 1914
No-tolch/ No-talq 1866 – ?? discharged at Ft. Marion 08 Oct 1886
Perico Leon 1854/1847 – 1934 Surrendered with Geronimo
Seeltoe Hugh 1864 – 1894 Surrendered with Chihuahua
Sho-ee/ Shoie ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua
Spitty Erick 1868/55 – 1927
Stalosh ----- Surrendered with Chihuahua ?
Tahyan Ruby 1822 – 1897 Husband of Bey-it-tsun
Tahnitoe John 1855/65 – 1929
Tissnolthtos Jewett 1864/66 – 1936 Surrendered with Geronimo
Toclanny Roger (s) 1863 – 1947
Tooisgah Albert 1861 – 1932
Tsedekizen Waldo/Sundayman 1859 – 1932
Tsisnah Burdette 1866 – 1900 Surrendered with Geronimo, Carlisle
Tzo-Zonne/ Zo-zonne Evans 1860 – 1934
Ya-chee 1857 – ?? Scout
Yah-lo 1857 – ?? Scout
Yanozha Edwin 1866 – 1954 Surrendered with Geronimo
Zamon/Ramon? 1822 – 1898 Husband of Zeh-golth-che-de
Zele/Gil-lee 1822 – 1896
Zhonne Calvin 1866 – 1934 Surrendered with Geronimo, Carlisle