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Post by saskia21 on Sept 2, 2021 7:38:24 GMT -5
I found the name of Nahkiss' mother in the 1892 census: Naw kees man/Naw kees maw/ Naw kees waw  Some time between the end of 1900 and the beginning of 1901 Nahkiss dies: I believe he has a sister who is also on this census between his mother and him, she was married to Skinny. 1901 census:  Next I have found them again in the 1904 and 1905 census ( still looking for the earlier ones and later ones):  Attachments:
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Post by coeurrouge on Sept 2, 2021 9:36:54 GMT -5
I found the name of Nahkiss' mother in the 1892 census: Naw kees man/Naw kees maw/ Naw kees waw View AttachmentSome time between the end of 1900 and the beginning of 1901 Nahkiss dies: I believe he has a sister who is also on this census between his mother and him, she was married to Skinny. 1901 census: View AttachmentNext I have found them again in the 1904 and 1905 census ( still looking for the earlier ones and later ones): View Attachment I have doubt Nakiss die in early 1900's because in San CArlos band H or Coyotero band J, a man called Nah-kess was alived. |
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 2, 2021 11:25:48 GMT -5
I found the name of Nahkiss' mother in the 1892 census: Naw kees man/Naw kees maw/ Naw kees waw View AttachmentSome time between the end of 1900 and the beginning of 1901 Nahkiss dies: I believe he has a sister who is also on this census between his mother and him, she was married to Skinny. 1901 census: View AttachmentNext I have found them again in the 1904 and 1905 census ( still looking for the earlier ones and later ones): View Attachment I have doubt Nakiss die in early 1900's because in San CArlos band H or Coyotero band J, a man called Nah-kess was alived. In which census did you find this Nah kess? Nakiss is alive in the 1900 census, but in the 1901 census he is listed but crossed through, which most of the time means he has died (he is listed as Nahkara but it is definately him look at names of the wife and children). Also his wife is listed as a widow in 1904/1905. |
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Post by coeurrouge on Sept 2, 2021 14:42:07 GMT -5
I am maybe wrong but I think Nah-kiss lived since at least 1895 census (n°1014, page 356). In 1914 census there was Nakis (aka Richard) (SL 21 page 312).
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Post by coeurrouge on Sept 2, 2021 14:57:37 GMT -5
there is also that in 1895 page 369 Attachments:
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 4, 2021 4:45:12 GMT -5
there is also that in 1895 page 369 In the 1892 and 1893 census he is Nawkeyaw :   |
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Post by saskia21 on Sept 11, 2021 7:45:23 GMT -5
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Post by juan on Oct 6, 2021 11:49:36 GMT -5
Hello it looks like one group went to Florida and the other to mt Vernon
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Post by juan on Oct 6, 2021 11:55:44 GMT -5
Question why is one of the men blurred out
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Post by juan on Oct 18, 2021 7:02:27 GMT -5
Was this Geronimo's brother inn law
Read this on a web site
Edwin Yahnozha (1865-1881) was an Apache warrior in Geronimo's forces, fighting alongside the Confederate Army during the Second Mexican War. He had a sexual encounter with Maria Guerrero in Cananea. She described it as rape, but he insisted it was consensual. The woman's father and brother ambushed Yahnozha and shot him to death. In response, the Apaches raided the town and burned most of it to the ground. He was murdered by Maria’s father and brother does anyone know where he was buried at? This is from fandom turtledove web site
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Post by coeurrouge on Oct 18, 2021 11:59:23 GMT -5
Was this Geronimo's brother inn law Read this on a web site Edwin Yahnozha (1865-1881) was an Apache warrior in Geronimo's forces, fighting alongside the Confederate Army during the Second Mexican War. He had a sexual encounter with Maria Guerrero in Cananea. She described it as rape, but he insisted it was consensual. The woman's father and brother ambushed Yahnozha and shot him to death. In response, the Apaches raided the town and burned most of it to the ground. He was murdered by Maria’s father and brother does anyone know where he was buried at? This is from fandom turtledove web site Yes, Yahnozha was a brother in law of Geronimo (his sister was She-gah) but he was still alived in 1934... |
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Post by gregor on Oct 21, 2021 4:22:59 GMT -5
Was this Geronimo's brother inn law Read this on a web site Edwin Yahnozha (1865-1881) was an Apache warrior in Geronimo's forces, fighting alongside the Confederate Army during the Second Mexican War. He had a sexual encounter with Maria Guerrero in Cananea. She described it as rape, but he insisted it was consensual. The woman's father and brother ambushed Yahnozha and shot him to death. In response, the Apaches raided the town and burned most of it to the ground. He was murdered by Maria’s father and brother does anyone know where he was buried at? This is from fandom turtledove web site Sorry, but what a BS. Harry Norman Turtledove is an American author who is known for his work in the genres of alternate history and historical fiction. As Coeurrouge wrote, Yahnoza was still alive in the 1930s.  Yahnoza in the 1920s |
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Post by juan on Nov 5, 2021 13:04:03 GMT -5
Was this Geronimo's brother inn law Read this on a web site Edwin Yahnozha (1865-1881) was an Apache warrior in Geronimo's forces, fighting alongside the Confederate Army during the Second Mexican War. He had a sexual encounter with Maria Guerrero in Cananea. She described it as rape, but he insisted it was consensual. The woman's father and brother ambushed Yahnozha and shot him to death. In response, the Apaches raided the town and burned most of it to the ground. He was murdered by Maria’s father and brother does anyone know where he was buried at? This is from fandom turtledove web site Sorry, but what a BS. Harry Norman Turtledove is an American author who is known for his work in the genres of alternate history and historical fiction. As Coeurrouge wrote, Yahnoza was still alive in the 1930s. Yahnoza in the 1920s Want know if Edwin Yahnozha died some time in 1959. And where is he buried |
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Post by saskia21 on Nov 5, 2022 10:45:26 GMT -5
Geronimo's sister Ish ish's family:
Isch isch (sister Geronimo) born cir. 1808. Children:
1, possibly daughter Ja junta born cir 1843
2. Son Pase-kanny born c.1838, x Naw kees naw (Nawkeesman / Nakeezna later Maggie Diamond) in 1889 had 6 children :
1. Daughter : Denali (Ellen Diamond) born cir 1860 - after 1929
x 1st ?? had one son Gulneduhe (Will/Neill Wright) born cir 1886 x Nabeja (b.1873) they had 5 children: Dora (1915),Owen/Tee (1919-1922), Emma (1922),
Charlotte (1924), Edith (1928).
x 2nd Nazatyne (Ernest Diamond) born cir 1851, 1 daughter Adaltsis/Nauelecha (Tess Diamond) b.cir 1901/04
2. Daughter: Nasleesnah/Nawleesnaw (born cir. 1861) x Skinney/Kinney (b.1857)They had 7 children:
1. Daughter not sure about the name but something like: Zaty vella? (b.1883)
2. Daughter: Ara / Nadzinlake (B.1885-1947)
X 1ste Dodejaga/ Lee Baylish (B.1882 - 1918) son of William Baylish (b. 1843) x Nantinitl/Laura Logan (1845-1918)
they had three children: Harry ( 1908-1919), Frank (1914-1919), a daughter (1917-1918)
X 2nd Walter Chegay Zee (b. 1898) on 29 jan 1921. They had 4 children: Delfinia (1921-1934), Zella/Felda (1923-1992)married and had 4 children, Walter
(1926-1926), Daughter (1927-1927).
3. Son: Yoghee / Do hche/ Allan Skinney (b.1886)
4. Son: Nah gie gah lay / Nea hal say (b.1889)
5. Son: ? (b.1891)
6. Son: Tahdah tchilchelay (b.1893)
7. Son: John (b.1899)
3. Son: Nah-kiss/ Nawkees born c.1865 x Naw tlay dintah (b.1874) they had at least 6 children:
1. Son: Beya gas lah (b.1886) x Jah pah atlay (b.1887)
2. Daughter: Nahezadeskay (b.1891)
3. Son: Lo kelh / So kleh (b.1893)
4. Daughter: Abbie/Allie (b.1898)
5. Son ?: Balth (b.1898) is possibly Abbie
6. Son: Joseph/Myron (b.1900)
4. son born c.1870
5 son: Nal-chinnay born c.1878.
- 2 boys and 1 girl born after 1883
Naw kees naw (Nawkeesman / Nakeezna can be found on de census near her daughter Naleesnah until 1905, from 1906 she lives with her daughter Denali.
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Post by coeurrouge on Nov 11, 2022 12:59:40 GMT -5
Geronimo's sister Ish ish's family: Isch isch (sister Geronimo) born cir. 1808. Children: 1, possibly daughter Ja junta born cir 1843 2. Son Pase-kanny born c.1838, x Naw kees naw (Nawkeesman / Nakeezna later Maggie Diamond) in 1889 had 6 children : 1. Daughter : Denali (Ellen Diamond) born cir 1860 - after 1929 x 1st ?? had one son Gulneduhe (Will/Neill Wright) born cir 1886 x Nabeja (b.1873) they had 5 children: Dora (1915),Owen/Tee (1919-1922), Emma (1922), Charlotte (1924), Edith (1928). x 2nd Nazatyne (Ernest Diamond) born cir 1851, 1 daughter Adaltsis/Nauelecha (Tess Diamond) b.cir 1901/04 2. Daughter: Nasleesnah/Nawleesnaw (born cir. 1861) x Skinney/Kinney (b.1857)They had 7 children: 1. Daughter not sure about the name but something like: Zaty vella? (b.1883) 2. Daughter: Ara / Nadzinlake (B.1885-1947) X 1ste Dodejaga/ Lee Baylish (B.1882 - 1918) son of William Baylish (b. 1843) x Nantinitl/Laura Logan (1845-1918) they had three children: Harry ( 1908-1919), Frank (1914-1919), a daughter (1917-1918) X 2nd Walter Chegay Zee (b. 1898) on 29 jan 1921. They had 4 children: Delfinia (1921-1934), Zella/Felda (1923-1992)married and had 4 children, Walter (1926-1926), Daughter (1927-1927). 3. Son: Y oghee / Do hche/ Allan Skinney (b.1886) 4. Son: Nah gie gah lay / Nea hal say (b.1889) 5. Son: ? (b.1891) 6. Son: Tahdah tchilchelay (b.1893) 7. Son: John (b.1899) 3. Son: Nah-kiss/ Nawkees born c.1865 x Naw tlay dintah (b.1874) they had at least 6 children: 1. Son: Beya gas lah (b.1886) x Jah pah atlay (b.1887) 2. Daughter: Nahezadeskay (b.1891) 3. Son: Lo kelh / So kleh (b.1893) 4. Daughter: Abbie/Allie (b.1898) 5. Son ?: Balth (b.1898) is possibly Abbie 6. Son: Joseph/Myron (b.1900) 4. son born c.1870 5 son: Nal-chinnay born c.1878. - 2 boys and 1 girl born after 1883 Naw kees naw (Nawkeesman / Nakeezna can be found on de census near her daughter Naleesnah until 1905, from 1906 she lives with her daughter Denali. Ja junta could be the mother of Kanseah. if it was the case, she was certainly killed in January 1877. |
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