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Post by emilylevine on Sept 24, 2009 22:11:08 GMT -5
Thanks... much appreciated.
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Post by emilylevine on Sept 4, 2009 22:25:41 GMT -5
But I´m just reading “The History of the Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes of the Fort Peck Indian Reservation, Montana, 1800-2000” by David Miller, Dennis Smith, Joseph McGeshick, James Shanley, and Caleb Shields, co-published by the Fort Peck Culture Committee and the Montana Historical Society Press: mhs.mt.gov/pub/press/FortPeck.aspNot much about Whitestone in it, but generally a good overview about Yanktonai history and politics. Best wishes Dietmar Dietmar I got “The History of the Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes of the Fort Peck Indian Reservation, Montana, 1800-2000” through interlibrary loan and was able to get through a lot of it before it had to be returned. It sure seems like a good thing for the the tribes up there to have. Dennis Smith got his doctorate here at the University of Nebraska and I got his dissertation from the library here. I did find some interesting material at the National Archives in Kansas City last month related to a council held by the Yanktonai in August 1880 concerning whether or not the Yanktonai at Standing Rock should or wanted to or didn't want to move to Crow Creek to be with the rest of the tribe. I hope people in this forum can continue to locate and share information on the Yanktonai. And thank you for all your great work.
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Post by emilylevine on Sept 3, 2009 7:23:03 GMT -5
Thanks grahamew and jeroen. I will check the original ms. The Spotted Eagle piece is one that I have only transcribed; I have not worked on annotated footnotes yet (when hopefully I would have found this discrepancy). I really appreciate your help.
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Post by emilylevine on Sept 2, 2009 20:58:51 GMT -5
"Spotted Eagle was born the year called when Big Crow and His Brother were Killed, Cangi Tanka ahiwiktepi. This was 1859. Spotted Eagle was head chief of the Itazipco or Sans Arc as the French called them. He was of the Wakan band or the Holy band. This band was called the Holy band because the held the sacred calf peace pipe. He was a hereditary chief. Miniconwoju and Itazipco were closely allied; they were always together and joined by marriage relationships. Part of this band were hostile and were out with Sitting Bull; part of them were Agency Indians. Spotted Eagle was made a chief when his father..." [page torn off here, no other pages found at this point] ©Josephine Waggoner [DO NOT REPRODUCE]
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 30, 2009 19:44:21 GMT -5
I have two Hunkpapa band lists wherein JW lists both Kiglaska and Kangiska. She also writes all the band names out in one of her "chapters" and both are included there as well. I need to double check them because I think she lists some chiefs too.
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 29, 2009 16:55:53 GMT -5
I checked the two versions of the Josephine Waggoner "Gall" manuscript that I have, and they both clearly spell "Kangiska" and she delineates them as "White Crow band." So I don't think she "miswrote." However, I haven't seen her refer to this band anywhere else that I can recall. I will keep my eye out for that. I agree that the bands were very fluid; coming, going, merging, breaking up. We can only make a list of bands for a certain point in time.
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 28, 2009 15:59:07 GMT -5
Shan , Swift Bear was the uncle of Susan Bordeaux Bettelyoun, so you can read a little about him in her book With My Own Eyes. He was chief of the Sichangu Corn band. Also, Hyde's Spotted Tail's Folk can give some general information about him. Swift Bear: father: Sunka Isnala Lone Dog, grandfather: Tawapasha Red Warbonnet, Sisseton Santee (Red Top Tipi Band), grandmother: unknown Sichangu woman mother: Ptesanwin Gray Buffalo Woman, uncle: Wanbli Ohitka Brave Eagle 3 brothers: Peta maza Iron Fire, Mato Cikala Little Bear, Maga Goose 1 sister: Huntkalutawin Red Cormorant Woman
Dietmar, I think I have too many sources swimming in my head right now, and I had forgotten the info on the 1875 delegation that is posted on the main page.
Em
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 28, 2009 8:39:40 GMT -5
Thanks Kingsley and Dietmar. That's the clearest I've seen that photograph. Any sense of who Rosie Red Top is?
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 27, 2009 21:57:08 GMT -5
Kingsley Thanks for all your work on this. I have Diplomats in Buckskin and had looked at the NYT articles. When the NSHS opens again I'll check out the PR records. I appreciate the list. Odd that we can't find some sort of transcript, but perhaps the meetings with Grant et al were more informal than a regular council. Everyone mentions the trip, but no one says all that much about it. thanks again. Em (ps CR from NARA went out on Monday)
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 27, 2009 13:21:41 GMT -5
Does any one know how to find the record of these negotiations for the Black Hills? I can't seem to locate them in the U.S. serial set. The basic texts mention the delegation, but are surprisingly brief. Is there a complete list of delegates? THANKS for any help. Emily
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 26, 2009 12:14:33 GMT -5
I have more census info on Grasping/Grabbing Eagle and will post it as I locate it. For now:
Grasping Eagle and Red Day had a daughter named Alice, born around 1889
1888 census: Grasping Eagle is listed with an aunt: Winyansica (Bad Woman) (age 52) and a mother-in-law: Towin (Blue Woman) (age 64)
Also: In addition to Acorn (Mary Effinger), there are census records listing another sister of Itatewin (JW's mother): named Mazalutawin (Red Iron Woman), a few years younger than Itatewin. In 1891 and 1892 she is listed as a widow. Waggoner doesn't mention her in her manuscript.
Re Jaw in Densmore: "My mother was a Gi´gilas´ka, a division of the Hunkpapa band, and my father was a Sans Arc..."
Em
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 17, 2009 17:57:46 GMT -5
Both Susan Bettelyoun and Josephine Waggoner have been quite clear about the number of "war babies" born after the women of their bands were taken prisoner by U.S. army soldiers. I recently received Clair Jacobson's book, Whitestone Hill, through interlibrary loan. Has anyone read it and, if so, what did you think?
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Post by emilylevine on Aug 4, 2009 16:52:58 GMT -5
sitting on left is NOT Two Strike
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Post by emilylevine on Jun 17, 2009 21:22:16 GMT -5
don't know you, but I love what you do here...
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Post by emilylevine on Jun 15, 2009 21:24:01 GMT -5
About Belly Fat and Walking Shooter/Shoots Walking being one in the same: from Josephine Waggoner: "Old John Grass, Sr. was living then; he was the head chief. There was Shoots Walking--commonly called Belly Fat, and Two Pack, Fire Heart, and Yellow Fat all living in groups with their bands."
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