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Post by lgarcia on Apr 7, 2011 12:41:47 GMT -5
Do the Apache have a written language? I ask this because I see hyphenated words and names without a translation.
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Post by lgarcia on Feb 7, 2011 17:40:10 GMT -5
Rod: When I worked at Ft. Berthold I met a man (no name without his permission) who was half Mandan and half Hunkpapa. He told me his grandfather was He Nupin Wanica (not two, but nupin = both [without both horns]. He said Without Both Horns's mother was a full blood French woman. I asked him if he meant Metis and he said no. i will check my notes, but I think he said WBH had a crippled hand, the result of his warrior exploits. Toksta (later) LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Jan 27, 2011 9:58:15 GMT -5
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Post by lgarcia on Dec 29, 2010 9:57:27 GMT -5
GG: Cache Butte is on the north side of the White River west of Black Tail Creek. It is located in the vicinity of the "South half Section 1-Township 38 west, Range 47 north" Shannon County, South Dakota. Pahacanwegnayanka (paha = hill; can= trees, wood, forest; wegna = among; yanka = Lies). In the dim past Black Tail Creek was called Cache Butte Creek. It was at this place that Sitting Bull was to meet with the Ghost Dancers in the spring of 1891 to renew the fight. He was murdered in December 1890. Happy New Year, Louie
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Post by lgarcia on Dec 9, 2010 16:11:55 GMT -5
Clark: I have changed the subject line because the drum has nothing to do with Two Shields. You are asking very complicated questions that no one has a complete answer. The big drums were made of hollowed out cotton wood, wash tubs, and as the two photos from Standing Rock illustrate commercial bass drums. (i believe the two photos show the same drum). Notice the 4 drum legs (cancegahupi) and the Waboga (feathers on a stick) lying on the ground in the second photo. The badge of office for the Drum Keeper. The four legs were part of the Drum regalia. The drum in the photo is not a Dream Drum (no proper paint on the drum head) and no Drum Skirt (Cancega sanksanica). It is simply a Grass Dance drum or as it is called today a Pow-wow drum. How did it get to Standing Rock? That you have to ask someone from there. Here at Spirit Lake the rites were transfered from Sisseton, SD. Later, Louie
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 29, 2010 13:55:29 GMT -5
Kangiyuha: I guess I should have consulted my Dakota dictionary. Thank you for correcting my mistake. A catfish is just Howasapa, an abbreviated form of Hogan, owasin, sapa. I looked on the Ft. Peck Census of 1909 and 1910. #157 Hoasapa husband age 72 #158 Wakanmani wife age 66. But I guess this must be Bear Nose. Louie
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 22, 2010 11:28:11 GMT -5
debstar and swiftbird59: Virgina Drivinghawk-Sneve in her book "Completing the Circle" U. of NE Press 1995 and Herman J. Viola in his book "Diplomats in Buckskin" Smithsonian Institute Press 1981 both have Jack Frazier's photo. Viola thought that the photo was of Scarlet Raven, my wife's great grandfather. LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 17, 2010 17:09:30 GMT -5
Charlie: If you look at the 1885 Standing Rock census under Upper Yanktonai, the very first name is Nasunatanka Big Head. Yes, Nasuna means brain and Pa means head. It is a mistranslation that has stuck. The same goes for Black Catfish Hogansapa or for short - Hosapa means just a catfish. By the way catfish are naturally black. But everyone uses Blackcatfish for this mans name. These mistranslations are so ingrained that for the general public they can't be changed. Later, Louie
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 16, 2010 14:09:55 GMT -5
Clark: I don't know where you are going with this thread but you are getting into deep waters. The Drum was also part of the Grass Dance which was a pan-Indian movement during the Reservation era. The big drum is now part of the modern pow-wow. That is how the Drum reached Standing Rock. The Dakota, Nakota, Lakota don't have any traditions of Tail Feather Woman. We know she is real because in the Goggled material is a reference to a book in which the author states he actually met her. So now that you have read about the Dream Drum, now it is time to read about the Grass Dance. Louie
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 16, 2010 13:56:03 GMT -5
As you can see from the photo and from my own knowledge, the shirt itself is made of commercial leather. The original bib and strips were removed from the damaged shirt and sewed on the new shirt. The shirt was sold to a dentist from Williston, North Dakota for $10,000 and he donated it to the ND Heritage Center where it is on display. The dentist traveled to New Town, ND to his satellite practice where I was his patient.
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 1, 2010 14:30:43 GMT -5
Clark: The Dream Dance Drum is used today only at certain places. I don't know where this Religion is still practiced, but I know it still exists. Others on this website perhaps can fill us in on locations.
The big drum in the photo taken at Standing Rock Rez is a typical drum used years ago. The Dakota/Lakota adopted part of the religion that is why you see the four Drum Legs. Also note the feathered staff the badge of office for the Drum Keeper / Grass Dance Chief.
In the modern setting the big drum is used but not the legs. Only drum groups here and there still consider the drum sacred and practice some rules but most by and large treat it as a musical instrument without the using the drum rules.
There is a book recently republished "The Ojibwa Dance Drum" which hopefully fill you in on some details. LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Oct 29, 2010 13:16:58 GMT -5
Clark: I don't feel I am old even though I have seen 70 winters. To answer your question about the drums I suggest you Google Tail Feather Woman and Powwows.com These two among many will give you insites about the working of the drum. Naturally or hopefully you can attend an Indian gathering and observe the workings of a plains style singing group. Later, LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Oct 27, 2010 12:13:00 GMT -5
Clark: It is me again. I went back to message 22 to see the Lakota words. Kolapila = dear friends. The "la" means you are familiar with the male person. Sometimes the words are contracted to fit the melody. So changing from singular to plural may not change the meaning. As you say playing Densmore's music on western instruments is impossible. Most people I know laugh at the sounds produced. In most cases the drum is struck between the words or vocables. Later, LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Oct 27, 2010 11:03:28 GMT -5
Clark: Without the Lakota words one can't answer your question. What semicolon? Kola=one friend, kodapi = plural friends. LouieG
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Post by lgarcia on Jun 22, 2010 9:03:14 GMT -5
Clark: You are a great researcher, locating more information on the Hidatsa Two Shields. I am sure he died circa 1920. The Ft. Berthold Community College library has a copy of my place names. I have tried to publish one of a kind information but no one is interested. I looked on the 1885 list of Standing Rock heads of households and Two Shields does show up. If he was having a dance - it was probably the Grass Dance which means Two Shield was a Tiyospaye leader or the Dance Chief. He could have held both jobs. LaDonna is our Inyan Woslata Oyanke person. She would know more about Two Shields. I live at Spirit Lake in Dakota makoce. Later, Louie
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