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Post by cinemo on Jan 5, 2013 14:27:58 GMT -5
Ah, thanks, this meaning was not known to me
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Post by cinemo on Jan 5, 2013 11:53:44 GMT -5
Hi ladonna and Dietmar,
thanks for the replies on your part.
On January13, 1863, an account appeared in the New York Times about the hanging on December 26. This account was written by an eyewitness of the executions. The account stated, that just previous to the execution General Sibley reprieved, or rather respited the sentence of Ta-Tay-Me-Ma, an elderly Dakota. In this account is stated, that at the moment of the execution, a rope or loop was broken. A new rope was procured, and the man was hanged a second time. ( Presumably, this man was Hdainyanka ( Rattling Runner )
The account contains a names list of the executed men. Number 31 in this list designated Wa-she-choon, translated as Frenchman. 31. Wa-she-choon, (Frenchman.)
cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Jan 3, 2013 14:23:10 GMT -5
Hi, ladonna again, thanks for these lists and additional explanations. The information in my recently posting with regard to Washechoon I was reading in this link: everlastingexile.weebly.com/dakota-use-of-tobacco.htmlPlease see Part C Number 13. The Aftermath of the war This link contains many books and articles as sources. I must search for the origin of this text for Washechoon. Just I was reading another name for Washechoon. The other name is Toon-kan-shkan-shkan-mane. ( similar to Tunkanskamani Please see this link for trial 318 : athrillingnarrative.com/2012/12/29/1862-trial-318-wa-she-choon/cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Jan 2, 2013 15:09:27 GMT -5
Hi grahamew,
thanks for starting of this interesting topic. With regard to Curley, I think, the second photography of Curley was taken about 1877 or 1878 by Barry.
At this time, Curley was believed to be the only survivor of the Little Big Horn battle. So he was interesting for reporters, historians and others. Curley was born in 1856, maybe a little later. In this photo, he looks how in his very early 20ies. It's my opinion, I am not sure if this is right.
cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Jan 2, 2013 14:11:25 GMT -5
Yes, ladonna
unfortunately there were very many misspellings about right names with regard of Native Americans.
I was reading, among the originally 303 men, condemned to death, there were two or three Washeshoons. The Wachechoon, who was hanged was later discovered to have been a sixteen year old white boy who had been brought up among the Dakotas.
cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Dec 29, 2012 4:10:13 GMT -5
122. anniversary of the Wounded Knee Massacre
On evening of december 29, the wounded Lakota were brought in the church at Pine Ridge. Thomas Tibbles, a reporter, was that night in the church. He later wrote :
“Nothing I have seen in my whole life, ever effected or depressed or haunted me like the scenes I saw that night in that church. One un-wounded old woman held a baby on her lap. I handed a cup of water to the old woman telling her ‘give it to the child’ who grabbed it as if parched with thirst, and as she swallowed it hurriedly, I saw it gush right out again, a blood stained stream through a hole in her neck. Heart sick, I went to find the surgeon. For a moment he stood there. Near the door, looking over the mass of suffering and dying women and children, and ahhh the silence, the silence they kept was so complete, it was oppressive. And then to my amazement, I saw the surgeon, who I knew had served in the Civil War, had begun to grow pale “this is the first time I have seen a lot of women and children shot to pieces,” he said “and I can’t stand it.”
cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Dec 27, 2012 4:42:11 GMT -5
Hi gregor, thanks for your help and information. With regard to Chaska I found names as follow : " We-Chank-Wash-ta-don-pee " and " Wakinyatawa Chaska " ( His Thunder ) The hanging of Chaska was an evil intrigue of Minnesota`s officials. Even Reverend Riggs was in this case ( for me ) a liar. Chaska's name was on the presidential pardon list. He had been hanged "by mistake" in place of Chaskadon. There was not a "mistake" . Reverend Riggs and the clergy and soldiers who gathered the prisoners together the morning of the execution knew them all well after their imprisonment of many months, and they especially knew Chaska. Chaska was executed on purpose, in retaliation for the testimony by Mrs. Sarah Wakefield and in reaction to rumors that she and Chaska were lovers. Before her testimony, Riggs had earlier pressured Mrs.Wakefield to testify that she had been raped during her captivity, but she would not lie. Please see the Links for additional Information with regard to Chaska : www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=47616770en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We-Chank-Wash-ta-don-peecinemo from Germany
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Post by cinemo on Dec 26, 2012 4:32:52 GMT -5
Today we can commemorate the 150. anniversary of this unlucky event. The executions had been originally scheduled for December 19, but on December 16, president Lincoln authorized a postponement until December 26. for reasons of safety. www.chgs.umn.edu/educational/addInfo/Letters/lincolnPapers.pdfHello ladonna , thanks for adding this names list. I am a little confused with regard of a few names of this list. I was reading the names Chaska, Rda-In-Yan-Ka and Washechoon in other sources. Presumably there are various spellings of the names. Chaska may be number 8 in your list and Rda-In-Yan-Ka may be number 30, but I am not sure. Greetings fom Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Dec 1, 2012 14:42:05 GMT -5
Hi, bghillio, thanks for your thread, very interesting. With regard to the battle of Cypress Mountains, in 1867, here is a link for you. This link contains a narrative of Watches All, an Indian woman. Maybe this is interesting for you. Please see the Link, page 7, > Watches All`s War Narrative < www-personal.umich.edu/~jgone/images/ReconsideringHT.pdfGreetings from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Nov 24, 2012 11:15:55 GMT -5
Hello, lcray214
maybe your grandfather meant the Umatilla Indian Reservation, in eastern Oregon. The reservation is located near the city of Pendleton on the north side of the Blue Mountains. Home of the Cayuse, Umatilla and Walla Walla.
Greetings from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Nov 16, 2012 12:15:34 GMT -5
Ishton and Ish - keh
I think, there is a mistake. Ishton was the favorite cousin of Geronimo and wife of Juh. Ishton was killed by mexicans in very late 1882 or in very early 1883.
The Fort Sill records identify a woman named Ish - keh who died at Fort Sill in 1897as the same person as Ishton, but the identification is certainly a error.
I found this in a book by Angie Debo, Geronimo: The Man, His Time, His Place
Please see pages 163 - 166
Greetings from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Nov 11, 2012 14:31:50 GMT -5
Hi johnnycobra,
I am delighted, that you can find more information about your ancestor in this book - great
Best wishes from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Oct 28, 2012 4:24:27 GMT -5
Hi johnnycobra,
welcome in this forum. Presumably you are looking for Tomichicut ( tuu motso katu ) The meaning for this is > he has a black beard <
Please see the book: The Comanches - A History 1706 - 1875 by Dr. Thomas W. Kavanagh
( Please see Index for Tomichicut )
Greetings from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Oct 27, 2012 10:31:30 GMT -5
On october 21, Kateri Tekakwitha was canonized in Rome by the Pope. Kateri Tekakwitha, also known as the "Lily of the Mohawks" , is the first Native American woman, that has been canonized. Tekakwitha had been declared venerable in 1943 by the Catholic Church and beatified in 1980 by Pope John Paul II An estimated 2,000 aboriginal people from across Canada and the United States travelled to the Vatican to attend the canonization mass. Please, read the Link . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kateri_TekakwithaGreetings from Germany - cinemo
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Post by cinemo on Sept 23, 2012 12:32:17 GMT -5
Recently, the Greentown Preservation Association commemorated the bicentennial of the removal and burning of Greentown - Village ( Ohio ). Greentown was a Delaware Village . It was established as the result of migration of Native Americans after the Revolutionary War. Delaware, and small groups of Mohawks, Mohegan's, and Mingos, settled the site as early as 1782. By 1812, it is stated Greentown had more than 150 dwellings. Although considered peaceful, after the surrender of General William Hull to the British in Detroit in the War of 1812, it was feared the Greentown residents would aid “unfriendly” Indians. A removal was arranged by militia. The removal is dated sometime between August 27 and September 3, 1812. Greentown residents were uncertain about what would occur after removal and were hesitant to obey the orders. Chief Armstrong was assured, through the urging of James Copus, that Greentown's property would be inventoried and protected until peace ensued. However, a faction of militiamen who "assisted" in the removal stayed behind and set fire to the village. Consequently, the village remained essentially abandoned after the War of 1812. www.remarkableohio.org/HistoricalMarker.aspx?historicalMarkerId=551cinemo from Germany
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