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Post by grahamew on Apr 30, 2024 12:49:46 GMT -5
Or is he Hunkpapa after all? He's listed under Hunkpapa in the 1886 census...
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Post by grahamew on Apr 28, 2024 6:52:52 GMT -5
So... Belly Fat is Walking Shooter/Shoots Walking, but was a Two Kettle Lakota who married into the Sihasapa and was a Sihasapa band leader, listed in the Sitting Bull Surrender Census of 1881 an agency leader. In his band, there is a younger man (22 in 1881) listed as Shoot Walker, the son of Looking Horse. I'm putting two and two together here from the account of Belly Fat in Emily's Josephine Waggoner book, Witness, and thinking this may be his nephew, later known as Walcott Wakutemani, though she has him as 15 at the time of Little Bighorn, in which he took part. However, I've come across another young Walks Shooting, this time given the name Huntington, according to the missionary teacher Mary C. Collins’ brief autobiography. I've also seen a photo of this man from 1888 in which he looks late 20s. The statement I have is that he was at the Custer Fight but later became a Christian and ally of the missionaries. Is this just a coincidence or are the two younger men one and the same and someone hasn't remembered their (literally) Christian names - though both are pretty distinctive and unusual? I'm supposing that the younger man (or men) had joined the Northern people for the summer but slipped back onto the agency, because the one in the Surrender census is part of an agency band rather than one of the groups surrendering and his father is listed as a farmer.
Does anybody have more information on this?
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Post by grahamew on Apr 23, 2024 14:16:59 GMT -5
Wild West Show Lakota Unidentified, but taken at Fort Benton, 1901 Unidentified Navajo Navajo, circa 1865. Barboncito at centre; Cayetano (Manuelito's brother at right); Manuelito (minus the usual moustache) at right??? Crow (but possibly Cree) by Goff Unidentified Unidentified. Winnebago? Potawatomi? Spotted Crow Shoshone and Bannock Red Wolf and family - though he doesn't look like the images of the Southern Cheyenne Red Wolf I've seen
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Post by grahamew on Apr 22, 2024 14:01:12 GMT -5
Found on an auction site: a slide made of the original that used to be held by the MPM
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Post by grahamew on Apr 14, 2024 7:37:25 GMT -5
That's fascinating stuff, Dietmar. IT's notable that in the studio portrait that must have been taken around that time, he's wearing his fur hat with the plume
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Post by grahamew on Apr 8, 2024 9:13:26 GMT -5
No. 3733. "Paint and Feathers." 53 Sioux Indians in war paint and feathers. Brulés and Ogallalas, the most noted being the grandchildren of Nelson, who guided Brigham Young to Utah. "No Neck," a famous warrior and the Indian baby who was found on the Wounded-Knee-Battle-Field, and also Mr. Geo. Crager, the noted interpreter. Photo and copyright, 1892, by Grabill Chicago Portrait & View Co., Chicago.click onto image to enlargeView Attachment Its wonderful to be able to see this in such detail. Thanks for posting.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 6, 2024 6:39:40 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Catching Bear listed as a member of Fire Heart' band in the 1881 Sitting Bull Surrender Census is the same man who was killed with Sitting Bull at Grand River in 1890? According to the Census, he had been farming three acres for three years at the time it was compiled.There is no other Catch the Bear/Catching Bear in the Census, but, of course, he may not have been known under that name or perhaps he'd surrendered elsewhere. Ephriam has provided footnotes forn several of the major figures in the Census but not for this man, which made me wonder if it was someone different.
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Post by grahamew on Apr 4, 2024 3:30:45 GMT -5
Thanks, Rod - and to anyone reading, I thoroughly recommend Rubbing Out Long Hair
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Post by grahamew on Apr 2, 2024 12:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Apr 2, 2024 12:21:53 GMT -5
Okay, some of these images don't just show individuals, but... Perry and GJ Petrik at Rosebud, 1907 I believe this shows Yellow Horse, Rain Waiter and The Butcher/Cheyenne Butcher because we've already had this one: Same photographer too. Supposed to be Shoshone dancers at Rock Springs, Wyoming, 1886 The suggestion on the auction site is that this may show a Sicangu Lakota, circa 1858-9 Without the frame Cree dancers at a Treaty Payment, circa 1900 Not sure the when and where, but sonewhere on the plains of Canada, and I assume they're Cree Neither is Plenty Horses... Supposed to show a Wild West Show Lakota in 1887 As above As above... I wonder if these aren't from a later visit to London, however. Another Wild West Show image? Wild West Show Lakota This one was labelled as Luther Standing Bear...
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Post by grahamew on Mar 26, 2024 16:30:14 GMT -5
We have a thread on Piapot but nearly all the photos have disappeared: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/318/piapotThis is probably the most famous one. No idea about date. With other headmen in front of the Montreal Garrison Artilerry Taken 1885 by Oliver Buell This is the man identified as Piapot from the image above Note that one of the soldiers has swapped hats with Piapot In later life ... and again. None of these images are by Farmer, so there must be at least photo of Piapot still out there... somewhere.
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Post by grahamew on Mar 26, 2024 8:57:49 GMT -5
Hmmm. Now you've got me wanting to see more of Farmer's photos...
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Post by grahamew on Mar 23, 2024 4:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Mar 22, 2024 12:23:22 GMT -5
Perhaps another (or maybe a Morrow) Mad Bull, Yankton headman
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Post by grahamew on Mar 22, 2024 6:24:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Wolfgang. I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't Blairstown, Iowa... Also wonder if Smith wasn't selling someone else's work. There is another image of Skunk, taken outdoors and wearing pretty much the same clothing, plus a fur cap, which he may be holding in the studio photo. Note the punched holes in all these images, as if the owner had kept them in the same album. If the man with shorter hair is Grant White Man, then this would date the image to around 1900, whereas, had I not been told that, I'd have said earlier, maybe late 1880s. Note that Skunk and the man in the wearing the horned bonnet both appear to be wearing badges. Wild West Show/Exposition ephemera? Police badges? As for the photographer... I have no idea. There was a DC Smith operating in Dakota in the 1870s, but I can find no connection to Blairstown, either in Iowa or New Jersey
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