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Post by Nahi on May 24, 2019 9:15:44 GMT -5
I am 62% Indian and I cant find out what apache tribe I belong to. My grandfather last name is Guerrero. can anyone help me I don't know of any apache called Guerrero. As you know, guerrero means warrior in Spanish which in the case does not give us any hint at all.. If I was you I would start looking for information about your grand grandpa in Ciudad Guerrero which is a district of Chihuahua since 1859, maybe the name comes from that place. It is more a Tarahumaran land but I know that Cap. Mauricio Corredor who was a tarahumaran Indian, pursued chief Juh and Jerónimo in their raids there. Also Luis Terrazas recruited tarahumaras to capture them when they assaulted a mining camp in Dolores (Guerrero) in 1882. He even gave a bounty for every apache captured, which means that they did move around that place.
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Post by Gerardo on Jul 28, 2019 0:43:22 GMT -5
What’s up brothers I am trying to find out where my family where at like what reservation my Grandfather told me that his father was Apache and he was born in Chihuahua And my grandfather told me that his grandmother but talk about Geronimo and that his grandfather was killed by Mexicans but my mom told me that my great grandfather’s sister told other family that we were Tarahumara Indians but I believe my grandfather that we are Apache I have a family tree so I’m going to try to find out about my family history.
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Post by David Carrasco on Jul 28, 2019 11:52:45 GMT -5
My father was born in the late 1800's and based family information no one knew which Native Tribe he was from and or associated with. All I know based on my DNA findings is that he was in the Eastern Jalisco, Aquascalientes and Western Guanajuato Mexico. While alive he also mentioned the town Chihuahua. As a child I recall a conversation that took place between him and my uncle where my uncle said that they were "Apache". I am finding it hard to confirm if they were Apache and but strongly I believe they are from the Chiracahua Clan.
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Post by Holguin. A on Aug 2, 2019 21:18:17 GMT -5
Chief Thunderface as he was known as onstage in the circa 1920's. The Smithsonian Museum in New York has quite a bit of information regarding
Chief Thunderface so you may want to inquire with them as well.
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Post by Mitakuye Oyasin on Aug 2, 2019 21:27:22 GMT -5
The information I received from the museum was he was identified as an Apache, however the web shares that he was a Sioux. I continue to ask my family that were born and lived on the rez. Currently Chief Michael Joseph Thunderface has memorabilia at the museum in Los Angeles, it was donated by my uncle blue bird and aunt Dina
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Post by La2426 on Aug 21, 2019 22:33:45 GMT -5
We must be related because I'm trying to find the same information as well. I'm looking for more about chief Thunder face and Grandma Bluebird I understand there was a museum and he was apart of the Apache tribe. My family had a reunion and had their faces on the shirt. Oh was it a big loving family. Any information will help!
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Post by Ebby on Oct 9, 2019 19:57:11 GMT -5
A matriarch of my family lived most of her childhood in the 1880s as a slave/servant at the hacienda of a Mexican family near the city of Chihuahua, Mexico. She was recognized as one amongst numerous Apache (often referred to as "india salvaje" "niña salvaje" or "niña matagente" by Mexicans) children (mostly girls) taken captive after battles between the Mexican military and Apache warriors. She was given the name Romalia by the Catholic Church and just prior to her being married in 1894. I am trying to figure out what band of Apache she might have derived from. It makes sense that she was of the Nednhi band considering their large numeric presence in the Mexican state of Chihuahua. The dates, however, also suggest that she might have been of another Chiricahua band, one of numerous women and girls who were taken captive after battles such as that at Tres Castillos in 1880. Can anyone recommend any sources that might be useful for my research? Moreover, is there much of a Nednhi presence at any of the Apache "reservations" in the U.S.? It's astonishing to me how traces of the Nednhi are so difficult to locate either in the U.S. or in Mexico.
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Post by Ebby on Oct 9, 2019 20:00:24 GMT -5
One, do you have a DNA test done and uploaded to GedMatch.com with a kit number from gedmatch?
If so what is the kit number.
I am Nednehi and i am familiar with much of the bands and sub-tribes of tge Chiricahua
Two, do you have a tree i can review?
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Post by Ebby on Oct 9, 2019 20:12:06 GMT -5
For those who were wondering.
The Apaches of the Chiricahua sub-bands south of the borders are not just in the sonora area. And Bronco were not the only band of Apaches in the Sonora area.
I have found many records throughout sonora, chihuahua, coahuila, jalisco, Nuevo Leon, San Luis Potosi.... etc
By 1860, the Apaches controlled more territory then the United States.
And remember not only Chiricahua nut Lipan were in Mexico.. also other natives were there as well.
And there is more.
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Post by Rosie P. on Oct 6, 2020 0:56:39 GMT -5
WE WERE NATIVE BEFORE AMERICA.THE HISTORY OF THE APACHE TRIBES ARE ON BOTH SIDES BEFORE BORDERS.AND I READ DEFFERENT THINGS ABOUT SAME NATIVES SUCH AS CHIEF GERONIMO BEING FROM A TRIBE SOUTH OF THE RIO GRANDE.OF WICH THERE WERE OTHER CLANS ALSO.I THANK MY CREATOR THAT I AM STILL NOMADIC!AND LIVE ON ONE WORLD.MODERN NATIVE CHIEF CHUMA.HAPPY HUNTING AND LET US NOT LET OUR EGO'S GET IN THE WAY OF OUR SEARCHING.WE ARE MANY AND WE KNOW WHO WE ARE.LOVE-OUT XOXOXO
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Post by Rosie P. on Oct 6, 2020 1:05:16 GMT -5
I have three older sisters so that makes four girls that my mom and dad had. Now I know why we are nomads! Three of the four of us are nomads and are constantly moving two different parts of the country or parts of the world. What a my sister's actually lives in Cairo, Egypt right now. My ancestors are originally from northern Mexico and Southern Texas and I suspect we have a lot of Apache ancestry just from looking at pictures and how we resemble Apaches. I feel a deep connection to animals, nature, and Mother Earth. I always have. I don't understand why the Gringos want to destroy Mother Earth just to hoard more money and wealth. For what??
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Post by Rosie P. on Oct 6, 2020 1:07:30 GMT -5
Wow that's amazing! Thanks for the info. I wish there was more information on the different native tribes in Mexico. For those who were wondering. The Apaches of the Chiricahua sub-bands south of the borders are not just in the sonora area. And Bronco were not the only band of Apaches in the Sonora area. I have found many records throughout sonora, chihuahua, coahuila, jalisco, Nuevo Leon, San Luis Potosi.... etc By 1860, the Apaches controlled more territory then the United States. And remember not only Chiricahua nut Lipan were in Mexico.. also other natives were there as well. And there is more.
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Post by Craigvann71 on Dec 26, 2020 23:19:26 GMT -5
Yes, it will be hard to find the records of my people. One many fled Mexico through the Robledo mountains in New Mexico Two many married into Yaqui Families from SONORA and now are in the Yavapia Red Three, many fled from both Mexico and US into so cal deserts Also although many young women and girls were taken by the mexicans a good amount were not from my band. I have a great grandfather who was know for raiding other band for their women and children such as from White Mountains and so on. DNA matching will show Na-Dene markers but most from my band will show up as central American due to the databases test inputs locations... but although it comes up Central American the DNA matches with most other Apache Bands and not from the more southern native tribes. By 1880 my band numbered close to 25,000 True we were in Janis but the truth is we stretched from warm spring, NM to Sonora, Mex.we have records showing our travels from CA, Az, NM to as far south as San Luis Potosí, Mex As for records, we never kept then in a European structure but there are still some. My suggestion is to upload your DNA test to GEDMatch.com (genesis) and start building a DNA family archieve. You can find me there..... Ndéén, and I am no longer hiding PH5572442 GEDMatch.com Genesis My DNA kit number SQ5896892. surprise surprise. U and me share matches
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Post by Tony Limas on Mar 8, 2021 0:06:45 GMT -5
Chief Thunderface as he was known as onstage in the circa 1920's. The Smithsonian Museum in New York has quite a bit of information regarding Chief Thunderface so you may want to inquire with them as well.
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Post by Tony Limas on Mar 8, 2021 0:21:51 GMT -5
Chief Michael Joseph Thunderface was my grandfather I remember him right before he died in Los Angelo's when I was just a boy my mother is Bluebird my uncle was Bluesky and my auntie was Redbird my grandfather led an adventurous life and you could read of some of his journeys in family circle magazine as well as the book Land of the Eye I too have been searching for the truth of my ancestors including the right to be
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