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Post by naiches2 on Oct 25, 2012 8:04:46 GMT -5
Apache Scouts at Mescalero , 1925 Back row 8th from left is Leon Perico Attachments:
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Post by penjady on Oct 25, 2012 8:33:09 GMT -5
Apache Scouts at Mescalero , 1925 Back row 8th from left is Leon Perico Perico, Martine, yahnosha, tzedikizen, kayitah, coonie, tooisgah, chato, tissnolthos, toclanny.. There is a couple more.. Going to look at my notes. |
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Post by naiches2 on Oct 25, 2012 9:50:46 GMT -5
Apache Scouts at Mescalero , 1925 Back row 8th from left is Leon Perico Perico, Martine, yahnosha, tzedikizen, kayitah, coonie, tooisgah, chato, tissnolthos, toclanny.. There is a couple more.. Going to look at my notes. Dear penjady, which of these people is Tzedikizen? First row (sitting), 1st from righ is Charlie Istee (IMHO) |
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Post by penjady on Oct 25, 2012 16:13:23 GMT -5
Perico, Martine, yahnosha, tzedikizen, kayitah, coonie, tooisgah, chato, tissnolthos, toclanny.. There is a couple more.. Going to look at my notes. Dear penjady, which of these people is Tzedikizen? First row (sitting), 1st from righ is Charlie Istee (IMHO) Not Istee. Thats Coonie. Waldo tsedikezen is 3rd from right... Bottom. |
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Post by kayitah on Oct 25, 2012 17:56:46 GMT -5
I'll give it a try as well - some are easy to recognize, others not so much...
back row L-R: Jewett Tissnolthtos, Alfred Chato, ? , Sherman Curley, ? , ? , Arnold Kinzhuna (?), Rogers Toclanny, Leon Perico, Charles Martine, Benjamin Astoyeh (?) , Martin Kayitah
2nd row from back R-L: ? , Arthur Guydelkon, Albert Tooisgah (?), ? , (group of boys I'm unable to even give it a try right now)
2nd row from front R-L: William Coonie, ? , Waldo Tsedekizen (thanks to penjady), (unable to identify any of the others except Na-thle-tla (white haired woman)
some people I am missing on this photograph, maybe someone can help out: Yahnozha, Stephen Kaizeh, Helen Chato, Nahdozin (who, as I recently read, was one of the last men of the older generation to pass on to the spirit world)
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Post by kayitah on Oct 25, 2012 20:14:56 GMT -5
Yahnozha in his later years Attachments:
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Post by naiches2 on Oct 26, 2012 2:26:25 GMT -5
I'll give it a try as well - some are easy to recognize, others not so much... back row L-R: Jewett Tissnolthtos, Alfred Chato, ? , Sherman Curley, ? , ? , Arnold Kinzhuna (?), Rogers Toclanny, Leon Perico, Charles Martine, Benjamin Astoyeh (?) , Martin Kayitah 2nd row from back R-L: ? , Arthur Guydelkon, Albert Tooisgah (?), ? , (group of boys I'm unable to even give it a try right now) 2nd row from front R-L: William Coonie, ? , Waldo Tsedekizen (thanks to penjady), (unable to identify any of the others except Na-thle-tla (white haired woman) some people I am missing on this photograph, maybe someone can help out: Yahnozha, Stephen Kaizeh, Helen Chato, Nahdozin (who, as I recently read, was one of the last men of the older generation to pass on to the spirit world) I'sorry, but Arthur Guydelkon live in Oklahoma according of Census 1925. And Na-thle-tla live in Oklahoma also. White haired woman - is Dash-den-zhoos (1860 – post 1931) - half-sister of Naiche, daughter of Cochise (Look at Freddie Kaydahzinne's page: www.myspace.com/freddiekaydahzinne/photos/4490718). |
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Post by naiches2 on Oct 26, 2012 2:27:00 GMT -5
Dear penjady, which of these people is Tzedikizen? First row (sitting), 1st from righ is Charlie Istee (IMHO) Not Istee. Thats Coonie. Waldo tsedikezen is 3rd from right... Bottom. Thank you for help |
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Post by kayitah on Oct 26, 2012 5:02:55 GMT -5
Thank you my friend for correcting me. Of course it's Dash-den-zhoos, I don't know how I got her mixed up with Na-thet-la. You're also right about Arthur Guydelkon, I should have checked first. Oh well, it was late at night when I posted...  |
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Post by jeroen on Oct 26, 2012 11:36:37 GMT -5
I also find it hard to identify Yanozha, front row second from right perhaps?
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Post by naiches2 on Oct 27, 2012 11:41:23 GMT -5
Chiricahuas who are live in 1925 and can be called "SCOUTS":
Astoyeh
Behedo
Balatchu
Chatto
Chee
Chihuahua Eugene
Chiricahua Tom
Coonie
Daklugie
Dick Harold
Fatty
Guydelkon
Kanseah
Kayitah
Kinzhuma
Kazhe David
Kyzha
Lahtsenaste Tom
Martine
Perico
Spitty
Tahnitoe
Tissnolthtos
Toklanny
Tooisgah
Tsedekizen
Tzozonne
Yahnozha
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Post by johnnycobra on Oct 27, 2012 12:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by mikeson on Mar 23, 2013 3:08:16 GMT -5
Thank you all for these wonderful pictures. I am a new member here looking for information about the Gooday's . My son's mother is Dorcas Gooday, Grandfather, Henry Gooday, Greatgrandfather Robert Gooday. I am gathering up as much information as I can for my son and his native American heritage. The picures and information I have already found here are priceless.
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Post by kayitah on Mar 23, 2013 5:27:56 GMT -5
Hello and very welcome!  Are you mainly looking for information or photographs, or both? |
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Post by dT on Mar 25, 2013 15:36:00 GMT -5
naiches2
I am wondering if you can clarify the meaning of the word "SCOUTS" in your last post. I am just trying to understand what it means. For example, I was surprised to see Perico and Yahnozha on that list of scouts. Chatto ... I would expect. But Perico? That's confusing me :-)
Also, I just happened to notice that you are listed as being in the Mexican Sierra Madre. Is that your permanent location - it's very interesting.
dT
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