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Post by naiches2 on Mar 26, 2013 3:27:47 GMT -5
naiches2 I am wondering if you can clarify the meaning of the word "SCOUTS" in your last post. I am just trying to understand what it means. For example, I was surprised to see Perico and Yahnozha on that list of scouts. Chatto ... I would expect. But Perico? That's confusing me :-) Also, I just happened to notice that you are listed as being in the Mexican Sierra Madre. Is that your permanent location - it's very interesting. dT If you watched closely spaced posts on this thread, you would not ask such questions. Check list SCOUTS here: Company 'I' 12th Infantry «Thread Started on Mar 29, 2011, 12:09 pm» Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=chiricahua&action=display&thread=1206&page=1#ixzz2OdDSFpNSIn addition, Yanozha served in the US Army (as a SCOUT): Enlistment 1 - Jan 1885 - Apr 1885 Enlistment 2 - May 4, 1891 Mt. Vernon - May 3, 1896 Ft. Sill Perico served in the US Army (as a SCOUT): Enlistment 1 - May 4, 1891 Mt. Vernon - May 3, 1896 Ft. Sill Enlistment 2 - Jun 11, 1897 Ft. Sill - Jun 10, 1900 Ft. Sill Sierra Madre - this is my permanent location, of course. |
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Post by dT on Mar 26, 2013 9:27:15 GMT -5
naiches2 .... Sorry - you are quite right that I did not read backwards on the thread. i will try to do that in the future.
Some dates that you are mentioning, such as those for Perico, now are understandable. The first set of dates for Yanozha were not what I was expecting. Please understand that I am not trying to make judgments about history or people. I am just piecing together what happened on the last expeditions by Geronimo, and realizing that more was taking place than some books have discussed. It was a complicated time.
dT
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 27, 2013 13:54:13 GMT -5
I can't find Yahnoza's file but posted image with Naiche's scout record 1884-85. Attachments:
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Post by dT on Mar 27, 2013 17:11:47 GMT -5
Naiches2 ... thanks. I'm certainly not doubting your word on this.
For Chirichaua readers - i understand the sensitvity of this topic and I am not making any personal judgments at all about people who served with the US Cavalry or rode with Geronimo. The participation by Yahnozha - and others like him - would have added a lot of detailed knowledge to the cavalry about the location of the "war trails" traveled by Geronimo and his band in southern Arizona and northern Mexico. This factor could have been on Geronimo's mind in his final expeditions (although Yahnozha was apparently not a Scout during the time of the final surrender).
thanks,
dT
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 9, 2013 0:20:37 GMT -5
Locos - from Fort Sill Apache Twitter Attachments:
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Post by sasja on May 2, 2013 5:09:30 GMT -5
Any idea when this picture was taken, I know it was taken at Fort Sill but around what time? I think the lady on the far right must be his wife Viola and the children possibly Agnes and Louise Chihuahua? Any one have any ideas who the other two ladies might be? Sorry for all the questions any help much appreciated. Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 10, 2013 20:01:54 GMT -5
Left: Fred Godeley and wife Jeannette (Russell) Godeley Right: Eugene Chihuahua and wife Viola (Massai) Chihuahua  |
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Post by naiches2 on Jun 11, 2013 10:25:49 GMT -5
The great people! Very proud. Thank you Mithlo. What do you think, in what year this photo was taken?
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Post by gregor on Jun 30, 2013 5:37:19 GMT -5
Standing: F. H. Sharman, James Russell, Jason Betzinez, Asa Daklugie, Eugene Chihuahua, Miss. McMillon. Center: Clay Domeah, Benedict Johze, James Kaywaykla, Miss. Adkisson, Viola (Massai) Chihuahua, Fred Godeley. Front row: Miss. Hawkins, Marcellus Bezhahun, Miss. Erving, James Nickolas, and Ramona (Chihuahua) Daklugie with her baby Maude Adkisson Daklugie. I think photo was taking in 1905-1906. This group are "active church members" of Dutch Reformed Church mission. See - H. Henrietta Stockel: 'On the bloody road to Jesus: Christianity and the Chiricahua Apaches', p.p. 183-184 Hi, found this wonderfull photograph of Jason Betzinez on the net.  Must have been made in the fifties, or? Gregor |
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Post by Mithlo on Sept 25, 2013 17:24:17 GMT -5
A tribute to Elder Vernon Simmons at Mescalero New Mexico. Left to right: Maggie Heath Parker, Totite (great grandmother of Vernon Simmons), Herwanna Hositosavit (grandmother of Vernon Simmons), Allan Hosetosavit,  |
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Post by Mithlo on Sept 25, 2013 17:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by Mithlo on Sept 25, 2013 17:46:53 GMT -5
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Post by Second on Sept 28, 2013 22:41:16 GMT -5
Great job Mithlo. On behalf of Vernon Simmons, thank you very much.
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Post by Second on Sept 28, 2013 22:52:56 GMT -5
Mithlo who are the two Indians on the back row. I understand one of them is George Koweno, which one is he? Was he a Comanche?
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Post by Mithlo on Sept 28, 2013 23:31:53 GMT -5
George Koweno on the left and his son Felix Koweno on the right(behind his mother Mary). Felix married Katie Heath, granddaughter of Chevato (Lipan-Tonkawa peyote leader) and their daughter Beatrice Koweno married Thurman Mithlo, youngest son of Mithlo and Dolly(Perico)Mithlo. Koweno(Kowena) is a Comanche family,Yes.
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