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Post by naiches2 on Apr 2, 2011 13:17:14 GMT -5
I think I can recognize the following: L-R (sitting): James Kaywaykla,  , , , Charlie Istee (Victorio’s son), Jason Betzinez and Gail Marko (Seth-mooda's son) Tahk you, bobby. Great image! |
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Post by coeurrouge on Apr 2, 2011 13:24:11 GMT -5
@ naiches2 ------ This picture I am posting is of a small group arriving at Carlisle December 8, 1886. Left to Right: Dorothy Naiche, Eva Anosien, Ramona Chihuahua, Asa Daklugie, Nellie Carry/Gray "daughter of Colle", Ambrose ChaChu, Charles Bictowsewah, ------ Mithlo From Beef Creek Cemetery: CHARLES BICTOWSEWAH APACHE, GRANDSON OF CHEE-AHN-CHEENH, 1874 - 1904 Anybody knows who was Chee-Ahn-Cheenh? |
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Post by kayitah on Apr 2, 2011 14:47:30 GMT -5
So is this man Kayitah or Tissnolththos? Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Apr 2, 2011 14:53:36 GMT -5
looks like the same man as this to me... look at the nose, cheeks, and eyes Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 2, 2011 23:58:50 GMT -5
From Beef Creek Cemetery: CHARLES BICTOWSEWAH APACHE, GRANDSON OF CHEE-AHN-CHEENH, 1874 - 1904 Anybody knows who was Chee-Ahn-Cheenh? Chee-anh-cheenh (pronounced Chee-ah-chee-an) a Chiricahua, no known family. Adopted Charles as his grandson. Chee-anh-cheenh died before 1886. Charles left Carlisle and married a woman from a New York Indian tribe, they had one child, a daughter. Then Charles (sick with TB) rode a bicycle from New Jersey to Ft. Sill in 1902. He died Jan. 2, 1904 |
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 3, 2011 7:08:14 GMT -5
Jasper Kanseah, Joseph ? and Alfred?  |
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Post by penjady on Apr 3, 2011 9:27:29 GMT -5
looks like the same man as this to me... look at the nose, cheeks, and eyes    |
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 3, 2011 13:02:16 GMT -5
Good work, penjady! Attachments:
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Post by jeroen on Apr 3, 2011 15:30:54 GMT -5
My idea exactly, thanks Penjady!
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 3, 2011 16:52:50 GMT -5
Jasper Kanseah, Joseph ? and Alfred? Jasper Kanseah, Alfred Eateh (Standing), and Joseph Ezhunna (Sitting). Alfred (Chiricahua) was born 1877, and with the group to Carlisle April 30, 1887. He took sick and left school March 2, 1892 and was returned to Mount Vernon Barracks, Alabama where he died. No known Family. Joseph (Chiricahua) was born 1878, and also with the group to Carlisle April 30, 1887. He was an orphan, parents unknown, but somehow related to Jasper Kanseah and Tissnolthtos. After Carlisle he lived in Pennsylvania a few years and then moved to New York state where he died in 1904. Never Married. |
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 3, 2011 17:56:11 GMT -5
You are real expert! Attachments:
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Post by bobby on Apr 3, 2011 18:47:42 GMT -5
looks like the same man as this to me... look at the nose, cheeks, and eyes Just been wondering if those watermarks on the photos are really necessary? Is there a reason why you decided to put them there? Also, it seems that the faces of the older men were cropped from one good quality picture. Do you think you could post the original version? |
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 15, 2011 4:06:09 GMT -5
Chiricahua Apache Group at Carlisle with some identifications (possibly mistakes, sorry).  |
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Post by coeurrouge on Apr 15, 2011 6:59:05 GMT -5
I think Ramona looks like in fact Dorothy Naiche.
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Post by coeurrouge on Apr 15, 2011 7:13:46 GMT -5
could this boys be the same? From left, Naiche identified as Istee. On right taken from the group arrived on april 1887 at Carlisle. Attachments:
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