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Post by naiches2 on Feb 28, 2011 9:04:11 GMT -5
Apache Students at CARLISLE INDIAN SCHOOL :
Al-ze-say, Apache
Asa, Apache
Augustine, Apache
Ba-Chi-Si, Apache
Dorathy, Apache
Eskuzeh, Apache
Ga-yar-lay, Apache
Grasshopper, Apache
Gu-yar-lay, Apache
Ha-ba-day, Apache
Hoo-sa-tau-lus, Apache
In-to-neh, Apache
Janette, Apache
Ki-ya-eve, Apache
Lavender, Apache
Little Boy, Apache
Ma-chu-she-yazhi, Apache
Marcellus, Apache
Margaret, Apache
Nahtoke, Apache
Naichez, Apache
Odellah, Apache
Odlehah, Apache
Roderick, Apache
Romana, Apache
Shulay, Apache
Weethea, Apache
Hattie Acklin, Apache
Setino Ah-ka-bak, Apache
Ezra Anigoon, Apache
Naameco Antonio, Apache
Lawrence Asa, Apache
Duncan Balachu, Apache
Godfry Balatcha, Apache
Colton Baleatza, Apache
Guy Basket, Apache
Given Bat, Apache
Eben Beads, Apache
Charles Belin, Apache
David Belin, Apache
Tennyson Berry, Apache
Edna Betahkatoch, Apache
Jason Betzinez, Apache
Marcellus Bezahun, Apache
Oliver pregnant dogaict, Apache
Ernie Black, Apache
William Black, Apache
Lorenzo Bonds, Apache
Susie Bonds, Apache
Lorenzo Bonito, Apache
Constant Bread, Apache
Little Bruce, Apache
John Bullock, Apache
Michael Bums, Apache
Michael Burns, Apache
Seth Cantanita, Apache
Nellie Carey, Apache
Nellie Cary, Apache
Albert Cassadore, Apache
Norman Cassadore, Apache
Ambrose Chache, Apache
Horace Chatto, Apache
Joe Chidden, Apache
Joel Chidder, Apache
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 28, 2011 9:12:03 GMT -5
Burdette Tsisna in Carlisle:  Burdette and Lucy Tsisna, Virginia sitting.  Tsisna (?) in group just arrived at Carlisle. ???What do you think?  |
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Post by coeurrouge on Mar 1, 2011 15:53:30 GMT -5
I think you are right
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Post by jeroen on Mar 1, 2011 16:35:38 GMT -5
Me too, the mouth is the same... also, he is wearing the same kind of necklace in the Fly images (this is obviously no evidence, merely pointing to a particular personal taste)
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Post by coeurrouge on Mar 1, 2011 16:37:40 GMT -5
Is there somebody had photo of Daklugie and Ramona Chihuahua when they just arrived at Carlisle?
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 12, 2011 14:54:17 GMT -5
Dexter Loco, Mabel Nahdoyah (Jozhe's wife, young girl), and Rachel Tsikahda (Yanozha's wife)  |
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Post by coeurrouge on Mar 12, 2011 15:38:19 GMT -5
Dexter looks like his father, eyes and mouth.
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Post by Second on Mar 13, 2011 13:38:55 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I just recvd an ISBN for my book and I have entered the last phase of publishing. My book is titled Second Jumper, searching for his bloodline. Written by Sigfried R. Second-Jumper.
It has taken me 5 yrs to write it. It starts out with the surrendering of the Chiricahuas and their journey to Florida as prisoners of war. While in Florida, my great grandparents were separated from the bulk of the Tribe and shipped to Cuba. An event witnessed by other prisoners, and recorded in their oral history and songs.
Also recorded and photographed by my family are my great grandparent’s arrival in Cuba, their struggles, sacrifices and accomplishments. Some of my great grandparent’s descendents began migrating to Florida, settling on the outskirts of the Florida Everglades. It was there that I discovered a Miccosukee Indian camp tucked deep in the swamps. Little did I know I was meeting the remnants of the only Unconquered Nation, The Florida Seminoles. In time I learned to master the art of breaking in horses, wrestling alligators, followed by 15 yrs of dancing and singing among them. These events were captured and will be shown with never before seen photographs.
Through their encouragement, I along with my family set out on a trip across country, in search of our long lost Apache relatives. A long journey that started in St. Augustine, FL, Oklahoma, Arizona, ended at the Mescalero Apache Reservation in NM. Upon arrival at Mescalero, I was welcomed and accepted by ex-prisoners of war, the Chiricahuas and ultimately my long lost relatives. Unaware of my past tribal history, I was inaugurated into the medicine circle as a singer for the Chiricahua Crown Dancers. It was there, that I have and continue to learn the traditional ways of the Chiricahuas. After many years of loosing members and traditions, we all decided to record and preserve our ways along with our daily activities for future generations. For the first time ever, the reader will enter into the sacred tepee of the Crown dancers and learned what takes place prior to ceremonies. All of it has been done with the consent of all members.
When the Seminoles learned that I was recording these stories, they asked me to include theirs as well. Some of these tales and photographs have been kept by members of both groups for decades as family treasures. I am honored to have been trusted to write them as they were told to me. All stories were reviewed by all participants prior to publishing to assure that they are told as they would want their great grandchildren to hear them.
Unlike many or most books written about these two groups, this one is done from within. As a result, the participants felt comfortable revealing stories long suppress by fear and mistrust. There is only half a page of references and over 300 pages of the real stories of the Tigers of the Human race, the Chiricahua Apaches and the Only Unconquered Nation, the Florida Seminoles.
I have dedicated my book to future Chiricahua and Seminole descendents but it really pertains to all humans as preserving their ancestral ways is just as important.
I will keep you all posted as soon as my book is available.
Sincerely,
Siggy Jumper
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 15, 2011 3:06:03 GMT -5
Is there somebody had photo of Daklugie and Ramona Chihuahua when they just arrived at Carlisle? In Eve Ball's Indeh p.165 is Wedding picture of Asa and Ramona Daklugie. |
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 15, 2011 9:57:17 GMT -5
Daklugie (?) when arrived in Carlisle.  |
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 15, 2011 10:22:05 GMT -5
Natalish Vincent or Nah-tal-ish (1879-1922), perhaps one of brightness students of Carlisle School. He is descendant of Victorio (his mother Zah-nah, was widow of Victorio's son, name not recalled). He was married on white woman - Johanna Lukewaw and died in New York City. His son Natalish Vincent Victorio (or Vincent V. Nahtalish Jr., born 1902) lived in NYC till 1980s. Here text from NY Times about this man.  |
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 29, 2011 9:59:46 GMT -5
Betzines, Zhonne and Chappo at Carlisle  |
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Post by nde on Mar 29, 2011 18:05:24 GMT -5
Do you by chance have a higher resolution of this pic?  This picture is of Kesetta Roosevelt and Jack Mather, Lipan Apache children that were captured and sent to Carlisle. |
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Post by Mithlo on Mar 30, 2011 12:10:25 GMT -5
@ naiches2 ------ This picture I am posting is of a small group arriving at Carlisle December 8, 1886. Left to Right: Dorothy Naiche, Eva Anosien, Ramona Chihuahua, Asa Daklugie, Nellie Carry/Gray "daughter of Colle", Ambrose ChaChu, Charles Bictowsewah, ------ Mithlo Attachments:
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Post by coeurrouge on Mar 30, 2011 12:34:36 GMT -5
Thanks a lot,  We saw as teenage Daklugie and his future wife Ramona. Do you know if the other children were part of the 144 outbreakers? (except for Dorothy) |
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