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Post by jeroen on Feb 24, 2011 10:17:44 GMT -5
Naculbaye and son?  |
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Post by coeurrouge on Feb 24, 2011 12:54:34 GMT -5
Third Round : I hope you can open the objetc with this message.  Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Feb 24, 2011 20:31:06 GMT -5
were Eyelash and Jozhe also part of the 144 that left in 1885, should we add them?
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Post by kayitah on Feb 24, 2011 20:36:41 GMT -5
I gave it a try and would like to know what you think... Ahnandia's name with a question mark appears twice as I didn't know which one to pick... Attachments:
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Post by jeroen on Feb 25, 2011 9:23:36 GMT -5
I don't think Eyelash was among the 144, he was a member of and related to Bonito's band and they remained, for the most part, on the reservation... Jozhe may have been among those who left, but he was not among the Chihuahua's group and he did not surrender with Naiche and Geronimo either... so I doubt it... Btw, great attempt Kayitah, I would have come to the same names... those with a question mark are likely those who surrendered with Chihuahua... I have cropped this one close up and compared him with the Fort Marion group, I think the only one resembling is the one named Shoie in the Fort Marion image... otherwise he may well be ah ni toe... What do you guys think?   |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 25, 2011 9:34:21 GMT -5
I don't think Eyelash was among the 144, he was a member of and related to Bonito's band and they remained, for the most part, on the reservation... Jozhe may have been among those who left, but he was not among the Chihuahua's group and he did not surrender with Naiche and Geronimo either... so I doubt it... Btw, great attempt Kayitah, I would have come to the same names... those with a question mark are likely those who surrendered with Chihuahua... I have cropped this one close up and compared him with the Fort Marion group, I think the only one resembling is the one named Shoie in the Fort Marion image... otherwise he may well be ah ni toe... What do you guys think? 1. Lot Eyelash was send to Carlisle in the spring 1885 2.Jeroen, man on your upper picture is Hunlona. |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 25, 2011 9:35:21 GMT -5
I gave it a try and would like to know what you think... Ahnandia's name with a question mark appears twice as I didn't know which one to pick... Good work, kayitah! |
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Post by jeroen on Feb 25, 2011 9:38:44 GMT -5
Are you sure about that?
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Post by kayitah on Feb 25, 2011 9:54:50 GMT -5
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Post by kayitah on Feb 25, 2011 9:56:32 GMT -5
Do any of you know which one Ahnandia is?
Missing is the man that sits between Hunlona and Tissnolthos (Mohtsos/Kilthdigai?) on the train image. He may stand behind the man with the medicine cap, not visible for our eyes...
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Post by jeroen on Feb 25, 2011 9:57:21 GMT -5
Okay... I'll take your word for it!
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Post by jeroen on Feb 26, 2011 6:48:22 GMT -5
I would say Ahnandia is the one standing next to Perico...
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Post by kayitah on Feb 26, 2011 10:39:55 GMT -5
I know there are many errors in Fly's photograph captions. I remembered that I have seen Alchintoyeh mentioned somewhere, now I've found it: Figures standing left to Right - Laza Yah Medicine Man, Hustianney, Tsisnea, Geronimo and Naiche (also spelled Natches). Kneeling/Sitting left to Right - In between Tsisnea and Geronimo is Zhonne. Sitting third to the right of Geronimo is Alchinstoyen, figure in white two to the right of Alchinstoyen is Dah Teste. Second to the left of Naiche is Lozen, one to the left of Naiche is Kil Tho igai.I know, nearly all identifications are wrong, so the Alchintoyeh identification isn't really credible... Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Feb 26, 2011 12:06:15 GMT -5
Ulzana, Nat-cul-baye, probably José Second, Yahnozha, and Fun. Behind Fun and Yahnozha is Adilnadzid. Attachments:
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 26, 2011 12:18:07 GMT -5
For Coeurrouge's list: Ulsanna's son Thomas Pel-coy  |
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