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Post by coeurrouge on Jun 10, 2011 3:51:42 GMT -5
I do believe this is indeed Dilthcleyeh and her daughter Cora Mangus (I have another photo of Cora Mangus at Fort Sill). NOTE: Your english is "good"!!!! If they were Dilth-Cleyhen and Cora Mangus on her left. The other young woman could be Chestuen or Besha-De (daughters of Dilth-Cleyhen from a first marriage). What do you think?
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 10, 2011 10:52:17 GMT -5
Ummmmm.....I don't think so, because I have several good photo's of both Besha-de and Elsie Vance Chestuen, and the woman in the photo is neither of them. The small girl 2 or 3 years old looks like Faith Mangus or Flora Mangus, both of which died young here at Fort Sill just after arriving in the winter of 1894-1895. My "opinion" is that the young woman is the wife of Frank Mangus, (Name Unknown), Dilth-cley-hen's daughter-in-law. Also, (but less likely), I "wonder" if she could be the widow of Victorio, the mother of Charles Istee, Dilth-cley-hen's half-brother? ?Whoever she is, she is surely "Close Family"!!!! Any idea's?
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 11, 2011 13:14:29 GMT -5
Cora Mangus - Ft Sill 1895 Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 11, 2011 13:18:56 GMT -5
Elsie Vance Chestuen - Ft Sill 1895 Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 11, 2011 13:20:38 GMT -5
Elsie Vance Chestuen - Ft Sill 1895 Attachments:
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Post by bobby on Jun 11, 2011 15:08:08 GMT -5
Mithlo, I really appreciate you sharing all those photos
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Post by kayitah on Jun 11, 2011 16:18:52 GMT -5
Thanks a lot for sharing these very nice photographs, Mithlo
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Post by naiches2 on Jun 12, 2011 4:08:21 GMT -5
gorgeous images!
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Post by coeurrouge on Jun 12, 2011 4:18:31 GMT -5
Thanks a lot, Mithlo!
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Post by jeroen on Jun 14, 2011 10:04:06 GMT -5
Thanks Mithlo! Wonderful images, I had never seen the Cora Mangus photograph before... she really resembles her brother Frank...
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Post by coeurrouge on Jun 15, 2011 11:28:09 GMT -5
About Chestuen's sister, Besha-De :
With who was she married and when? Did she have a child on 1885-1886 (at 15-16 years old)?
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Post by bobby on Jun 15, 2011 11:57:09 GMT -5
Besha-De was married to: - 1st husband - Waldo Tsedekizen, - 2nd husband - Borgia Aanitso (Ah-nit-sa) (b. 1877 - d. 1898, Ft. Sill): * Susie Aanitso (b. 1898 - d. 1950) - 3rd husband - Abner Kozine (b. 1875 - d. 1914): * Reginald (b. 1900 - d. 1904, Ft. Sill) * Christine Louise (b. Mar 16, 1904 - d. 1931) - 4th husband - Arnold Kin-zhuna (Tchu-je) (b. 1866 - d. 1941).
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Post by gailwoodside on Jun 18, 2011 4:28:57 GMT -5
The three women and one little girl are apache. They are holding beaded bags with tinklers and the shell on the forehead.
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Post by naiche on Jun 29, 2011 17:29:00 GMT -5
Who is he? Any idea? Don't know if u already have this one. Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Jun 29, 2011 18:29:28 GMT -5
Your photo is from E.S. Curtis, made in 1906. It is titled "Tsahizn Tseh". I think it could be this man, a Western Apache photographed by Rinehart in 1898. He's variously identified as Deze, Dezhe, and Long. Attachments:
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