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Post by jeroen on Mar 26, 2011 6:57:45 GMT -5
Who knows...!?!
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 2, 2011 12:09:58 GMT -5
yes, gil-lee and his wife juana, his first older wife. she was nednhi born about 1835 and died here in1904. gil-lee died here 1896. they had one son, clay domeah, who died here in 1913. gil-lee had a second younger wife, tsis-tohn, my great great aunt. tsis-tohn , called aunt sis, was in her teens when she married gil-lee, who was in his 50 s. she was the sister of astoyeh . Another shot from Alabama (?)
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Post by bobby on Apr 3, 2011 15:47:44 GMT -5
Gil-lee and Tsis-tohn. Attachments:
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 3, 2011 22:31:07 GMT -5
yes, that is her. she was 16 or 17 in the photographs, another photo she is sitting. in 1911 she married oliver bitchaet, he died in 1924. aunt sis, tsis-tohn, died in 1956 at age 88.
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 4, 2011 5:47:24 GMT -5
Zoom from second version of the photo.
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 6, 2011 15:20:27 GMT -5
The "fence" behind them is indeed at Mount Vernon Barracks, and the two on the right are members of the Mangus family for SURE! I need a help in identification... Who are this women? I I want to believe that are Chiricahua. Can you ideas?
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Post by coeurrouge on Apr 10, 2011 3:42:08 GMT -5
I need a help in identification... Who are this women? I I want to believe that are Chiricahua. Can you ideas? The woman in the center, could she be Siki, stepdaughter of Loco and wife of Toklanny?
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Post by Mithlo on Apr 11, 2011 23:36:07 GMT -5
Ummmmm? ...... I don't think so. I need a help in identification... Who are this women? I I want to believe that are Chiricahua. Can you ideas? The woman in the center, could she be Siki, stepdaughter of Loco and wife of Toklanny?
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Post by jeroen on Apr 15, 2011 11:09:31 GMT -5
I see the resemblance with Siki, but I don't think it is her either....
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Post by dianec on May 9, 2011 10:53:59 GMT -5
I need a help in identification... Who are this women? I I want to believe that are Chiricahua. Can you ideas? I love the leather pouches these ladies are wearing!
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Post by josephine on Jun 8, 2011 15:12:08 GMT -5
The "fence" behind them is indeed at Mount Vernon Barracks, and the two on the right are members of the Mangus family for SURE! The older woman could be Dilthcleyeh (the sister of Victorio)?
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 8, 2011 16:24:05 GMT -5
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!Someone has been doing their "HOMEWORK"!!!!
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 8, 2011 16:27:19 GMT -5
You mean "daughter" of Victorio? The "fence" behind them is indeed at Mount Vernon Barracks, and the two on the right are members of the Mangus family for SURE! The older woman could be Dilthcleyeh (the sister of Victorio)?
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Post by josephine on Jun 9, 2011 14:39:22 GMT -5
You mean "daughter" of Victorio? The older woman could be Dilthcleyeh (the sister of Victorio)? I no speak good english.... Yes, the daughter of Victorio, and wife of Mangus
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 9, 2011 15:18:09 GMT -5
I do believe this is indeed Dilthcleyeh and her daughter Cora Mangus (I have another photo of Cora Mangus at Fort Sill). NOTE: Your english is "good"!!!!
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