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Post by bobby on May 31, 2011 13:07:02 GMT -5
Marlanetta (left) and Azul (b.1850 - d.1934) (right). For me, different women. Attachments:
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Post by AMD on Jun 2, 2011 15:51:07 GMT -5
Regarding the short Geronimo histories at the beginning of this forum, Geronimo never "surrendered". There were multiple treaties verbally agreed upon by Geronimo and other Chiricahua leaders and the U.S. government. As far as the tribe is and was concerned, Geronimo never agreed to an unconditional surrender. "Negotiation" better describes the way Geronimo would have perceived the interections between his tribe and the U.S. government. General Miles accepted Geronimo's conditional surrender in 1886 (two years imprisonment and then they would return to a reservation on their homeland), fully knowing that the government would NOT accept it. Thus, he reported that he established an "unconditional surrender", deliberately lying to Geronimo and his own government. The Chiricahuas (and their families) were imprisoned for 27 years.
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Post by sasja on Jun 4, 2011 3:32:35 GMT -5
Marlanetta (left) and Azul (b.1850 - d.1934) (right). For me, different women. I have to agree with Bobby, I don't think they are the same woman. |
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Post by jeroen on Jul 25, 2011 3:10:32 GMT -5
A rare image of Geronimo:  |
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Post by jeroen on Mar 26, 2012 5:31:50 GMT -5
This is the earliest portrait painting of Geronimo I have seen so far... it is a watercolor by Farney and it is dated Fort Sill 1894:  |
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Post by jeroen on May 5, 2012 14:11:06 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Jun 22, 2012 0:53:07 GMT -5
Image of a young woman identified as Geronimo's granddaughter:  and one of his wives:  Hard to tell who she is... |
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 22, 2012 19:07:52 GMT -5
They are Lenna Geronimo and her Grandmother (It-tedda's mother?). I have original's of these two photo's and another one of Lenna taken at the same time. I will post it first chance I get.
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Post by Mithlo on Jun 22, 2012 22:41:14 GMT -5
Lenna Geronimo at Mascalero, NM. Attachments:
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Post by jeroen on Jun 23, 2012 6:24:42 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this much better photo... If the old lady is indeed Ih Tedda's mother, than that would make her Geronimo's mother-in-law, rather than one of his wives...
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Post by coeurrouge on Jul 5, 2012 15:48:09 GMT -5
:oInformation :
Apparently, The "Geronimo" from Robert.M.Utley will be avaible in january 2013. 24 years after the last Edition of Angie Debo's Geronimo.
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Post by jeroen on Jul 7, 2012 16:22:35 GMT -5
 Does anbody know the names, and some background info if possible, of the three men sitting with Geronimo in the well known photograph of him at the wheel of a car (locomobile)? I have Edward St. Clair, a Ponca (the one with the bonnet)... The Heard museum gives the others as Dull Knife (Cheyenne, but obviously not the famous leader who died in 1883) and Yellow Horse (a Blackfoot)... I do not know their source though... |
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Post by jeroen on Jul 11, 2012 9:34:35 GMT -5
Another rare profile portrait of Geronimo:  |
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Post by swa562 on Jul 24, 2012 23:29:44 GMT -5
Geronimo His Own Story The Autobiography of a Great Patriot Warrior by S.M. Geronimo, "During my many wars with the Mexicans I received eight wounds, as follows:
Shot in the right leg above the knee, and still carry the bullet; shot through the left forearm; wounded in the right leg below the knee with a saber; wounded on top of the head with the butt of a musket; shot just below the outer corner of the left eye; shot in left side, shot in the back. I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting."Barret.
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Post by gregor on Jul 25, 2012 13:57:17 GMT -5
The book was written in 1905 by S.M. Barrett, a school superintendent , who interviewed Geronimo. Asa Daklugie was the interpreter. Both, Barrett and Daklugie, had their own agenda. We can't be sure what Geronimo indeed told Barrett in particular. But Daklugie related later that Barrett evened the narrative. But nevertheless Geronimo was a great patriot and leader in his own right.
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