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Post by jeroen on Feb 10, 2011 5:20:55 GMT -5
Thank you!
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Post by jeroen on Feb 10, 2011 5:26:59 GMT -5
Any idea who this fellow is? He is said to be a Chiricahua Apache scout...  |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 10, 2011 14:34:13 GMT -5
Help with identification Attachments:
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Post by coeurrouge on Feb 10, 2011 15:07:36 GMT -5
this boy surrender with Chihuahua. Who is this boy? Attachments:
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Post by coeurrouge on Feb 10, 2011 15:08:36 GMT -5
I think this boy could be Dodostenay. your opinion. Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Feb 10, 2011 16:43:30 GMT -5
The man to Chato's left seems to be Sherman Curley
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 10, 2011 17:37:59 GMT -5
The man to Chato's left seems to be Sherman Curley Why do you think so? |
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Post by kayitah on Feb 10, 2011 18:21:16 GMT -5
The man to Chato's left seems to be Sherman Curley Why do you think so? It was an impression, it's not that I'm sure. If I remember correctly, there's an image of him in one of Toby Giese's Apache photo books. He was a Western Apache and an army scout when they attacked Adilnadzid's small group in the Sierra Madre. Do you think all the people on the image are Chiricahuas? |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 10, 2011 18:33:29 GMT -5
It was an impression, it's not that I'm sure. If I remember correctly, there's an image of him in one of Toby Giese's Apache photo books. He was a Western Apache and an army scout when they attacked Adilnadzid's small group in the Sierra Madre. Do you think all the people on the image are Chiricahuas? Yes, I do. Or Chiricahua and few Mescalero, but not Westerners. |
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Post by perico on Feb 10, 2011 19:15:01 GMT -5
It was an impression, it's not that I'm sure. If I remember correctly, there's an image of him in one of Toby Giese's Apache photo books. He was a Western Apache and an army scout when they attacked Adilnadzid's small group in the Sierra Madre. Do you think all the people on the image are Chiricahuas? Yes, I do. Or Chiricahua and few Mescalero, but not Westerners. That is correct. They are mostly Chiricahua and some Mescalero. |
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Post by perico on Feb 10, 2011 19:17:23 GMT -5
Also, back row far right is Guydelkon. Front row right is Perico. To the left of Toclanney is Coonie. |
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Post by jeroen on Feb 11, 2011 16:07:07 GMT -5
In sweeney's book it is stated that Sherman Curley was married to one of Cochise's daughters, does did mean that Sherman Curley the same as Goklitz? Btw, I think kayitah has a point that he looks like Sherman Curley in the photo posted above...
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 11, 2011 18:20:15 GMT -5
In sweeney's book it is stated that Sherman Curley was married to one of Cochise's daughters, does did mean that Sherman Curley the same as Goklitz? Btw, I think kayitah has a point that he looks like Sherman Curley in the photo posted above... Gokliz is dead about 1901, and photo dated 1925 |
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Post by coeurrouge on Feb 12, 2011 11:27:53 GMT -5
He is Lancey with Tsina at Carlisle. I am not sure, but the man I put on the photo seems to be Lancey. He is young, as was Lancey, and have a large face, so I conclude that he could be Lancey in the Chihuahua's warriors photo. what do you think?  |
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Post by jeroen on Feb 12, 2011 14:04:15 GMT -5
I doubt it, the features, particularly around the mouth, are different...
As for Goklitz being Sherman Curley, so he is either one and the same but died in 1901 and then he is obviously not in the 1925 photo, or they are different men and Sherman could be in the photo... In the Reed & Wallace thread we have a photo of Goklitz with his wife (a daughter of Cochise), Sherman was also married to Cochise's daughter, at least that is what Sweeney says in his book... perhaps they married different daughters and thus became in laws...
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