We need to talk !
According to a letter from Victoria Conroy, Worm (Crazy Horse 2) had 1 biological sister [1, 2].
But now we have several names for a possible sister to Worm.
We have:
1. Tunkanawin (One Horse's wife) [1, 2]
2. Rattle Stone Woman (One Horse's wife) [2, 3]
3. Big Woman (One Horse's wife) [4]
4. Big Woman (Human Finger's wife) [5]
5. Big Woman (Owl Bull's wife) [6, 7]
6. Na ke hi hi na in (Owl Bull's wife) [6, 7]
7. Pretty Feather Woman (Long Whirlwind's wife) [8]
How do we tackle that ?
Is this the same person with different names ?
If not, were they all biological sisters to Worm ? Or none of them ?
Victoria Conroy gave 2 names for Worm's sister [1, 2].
a) "Tunkanawin"
b) "marriage name was One Horse"
In his book from 1985, Richard Hardorff used only the name Big Woman for Worm´s sister [3].
In his book from 1998/2001, Richard Hardorff did not any longer use the name Big Woman, but instead used only the name Rattle Stone Woman for Worm's sister [4].
In their books, both Kingsley Bray and Mike Sajna used only the name Big Woman for Worm's sister [5, 9].
In the original post of this thread it was assumed that Tunkanawin, Rattle Stone Woman, Mrs. One Horse and Big Woman to be different names for the same person [10]. Which could be wrong.
And therefore One Horse is not necessarily also known as Human Finger, as mentioned in the original post [10].
Tunkanawin Richard Hardorff translated the Lakhota name Tunkanawin in Victoria Conroy's letter as Rattle Stone Woman [3].
But as explained in a separate post below in reply #48, correct translation is Stone Woman.
As also described in reply #48, Tunkanawin does not seem to be the Lakhota version of the name Big Woman nor Pretty Feather Woman.
Big Woman The sources we have about Mnikhowozu Lakhota Big Woman (who survived the Wounded Knee Massacre) as a sister to Worm:
1. The Lakhota Creighton Yankton in reply #45
2. ftpeckpabaksa in reply #32
3. The Lakhota Curley Youpee [7]
I find it convincingly explained in reply #33, how the Mnikhowozu Big Woman (Owl Bull's wife) was actually a "sister-in-law" to Worm but not a biological sister.
But of course every Lakhota would have stated she was Worm's sister
Because that is what she was according to Lakhota kinship terminology.
Therefore it is no wonder we have several different sources which identifies Big Woman as a sister to Worm.
A small possible complicating factor is that there were 2 Mnikhowozu Big Woman, the younger the daughter of the older [6, 7].
The older Big Woman (Owl Bull's wife) seems to be related to Worm in 2 ways.
That is through Corn's Man's daughters and perhaps also through Rattle Blanket Woman, as discussed in reply #33.
Which would explain Kingsley Bray's information that Big Woman shared Worm's tipi during unspecified time [5 (pages 263-264)].
But according to Kingsley Bray [5] that Big Woman was Human Finger's wife (not Owl Bull's wife).
Was Human Finger the same person as Owl Bull ?
What is the source for Big Woman (Human Finger's wife) being Worm's sister ?
To be open for all possibilities, there could have been both an Oglála Big Woman and Mnikhowozu Big Woman.
Perhaps Richard Hardorff gave up his use of Big Woman as a name for Worm's sister because of some additional knowledge.
Perhaps because he came to the same conclusion as in reply #48, that Tunkanawin does not mean Big Woman but instead Stone Woman.
Because at first sight Tunkanawin could be referring to tháŋka instead of tĥuŋkáŋ (see reply #48).
Can we relate Big Woman to Stone Woman (Tunkanawin) ?
Nake hihi na in It is possible that the Lakhota version of the name Big Woman is Nake hihi na in (Na ke hi hi na in) as suggested in reply #35.
Pretty Feather Woman The sources we have about the Oglála Lakhota Pretty Feather Woman (Eagle Elk's mother) as a sister to Worm:
1. indirect hint from the Oglála Lakhota Eagle Elk in Neihardt interview [11] as discussed in reply #23.
2. LaDeane Miller in reply #25 and in his book on a CD [8]
Perhaps there is a link between Pretty Feather Woman and Big Woman, through Creighton Yankton.
Because Creighton Yankton said in an interview with Eli S. Ricker, that Big Woman who survived the Wounded Knee Massacre was his aunt [12].
Pretty Feather Woman (Eagle Elk's mother) "was of Yankton stock" wrote Hardorff [11].
Perhaps Hardorff was aware of some connection between Pretty Feather Woman and Creighton Yankton, which perhaps influenced Hardorff to state that Pretty Feather was of "Yankton stock".
Yankton belonged to Siksicela Itazipaco (Sans Arc) Lakhota, according to information from LaDonna in reply #46.
According to Ricker, Creighton Yankton was an Oglála Lakhota [12]
That would mean that it is a wrong assumption that Pretty Feather Woman was a Yankton Dakota female.
Another Itazipaco (Sans Arc) Lakhota connection to Pretty Feather Woman, is the Itazipaco (Sans Arc) Lakhota wife of Eagle Elk who he married in 1871 [13].
So perhaps Creighton Yankton was related to Eagle Elk's Itazipaco Lakhota wife ?
With the results that Big Woman was not biological relative to Creighton Yankton, but instead an aunt in the wide Lakhota kinship terminology.
It would be good to know the name and family background of this Itazipaco (Sans Arc) woman - Eagle Elk's wife.
Then we could perhaps see a possible connection between Eagle Elk's wife (Itazipaco Lakhota) - Creighton Yankton (Itazipaco Lakhota) - Big Woman (Mnikhowozu Lakhota) - Pretty Feather Woman.
Thoughts and questions which arise:
1. Is it possible to relate Tunkanawin = Stone Woman, who Victoria Conroy wrote about, to Big Woman or Pretty Feather Woman ?
2. It would be good to see family and band background for One Horse, Human Finger and Owl Bull ?
3. Was Human Finger the same person as Owl Bull and/or One Horse ?
4. What is the source for the couple Big Woman and Human Finger and she being Worm's sister ?
5. Was there Oglála Big Woman as well as Mnikhowozu Big Woman ?
6. What is the source that Pretty Feather Woman was Makes the Song's daughter ? And therefore Worm's sister.
7. Is it perhaps based on interpretation of Neihardt's interview ? Or is there a written or oral Lakhota source for it ?
8. It would be good to see name and family background of the Itazipaco (Sans Arc) woman who Eagle Elk married in 1871
9. It would be interesting to know if and how Big Woman (Owl Bull's wife) and her sons (Dog Skin Necklace, Black Coyote, Looking Thunder, Long Horn) were related to Big Foot, Lone Horn, Hump and Rattling Blanket Woman (as discussed in reply #33)
Hopefully we can figure this out together.
Hreinn
References:
1. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Oglala Lakota Crazy Horse", J.M. Carrol & Company (1985) page 29 (reprint of Victoria Conroy's letter)
2. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Death of Crazy Horse: A Tragic Episode In Lakota History", Bison Books (2001) page 265 (reprint of Victoria Conroy's letter)
3. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Death of Crazy Horse: A Tragic Episode In Lakota History", Bison Books (2001) pages 56, 113, 128, 265, 270, 271
4. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Oglala Lakota Crazy Horse", J.M. Carrol & Company (1985) pages 27, 29 (above Victoria's letter), 42, 43
5. Kingsley M. Bray, "Crazy Horse: A Lakota Life", University of Oklahoma Press (2006), pages 6, 263-264, 429fn27
6. ftpeckpabaksa in reply #32
7. Curley Youpee on
www.turtleislandstorytellers.net/tis_montana/transcript_c_youpee.htm 8. LaDeane Miller, "Families of Pine Ridge" (on a CD), Descendants of Crazy Horse, Pretty Feather Woman
9. Mike Sajna, Crazy Horse - The Life Behind the Legend, Castle Books (2005), page 26.
10. In Part II under Paternal Grandparents in the original post of this thread
11. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Death of Crazy Horse: A Tragic Episode In Lakota History", Bison Books (2001), Neihardt's Interview with Eagle Elk in 1944, page 152
12. The Indian Interviews of Eli S. Ricker, 1903-1919, Voices of the West, Volume 1, edited by R.E. Jensen (2005), page 247
13. Richard G. Hardorff, "The Death of Crazy Horse: A Tragic Episode In Lakota History", Bison Books (2001), page 151