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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2024 15:54:41 GMT -5
I'd like to help you but, unfortunately, the poster must have used a picture server that no longer works. I had the same issue with TinyPic. I can only hope that the PostImage site I now use doesn't go down
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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2024 15:40:25 GMT -5
Handsome Elk, Lower Bruléthis string of messages is as good as any to post this ... currently for sale on eBay (July 3rd, 2023) - from the "feel" of it, I would date this to about 1880, but really would not know anything about Handsome Elk click onto images to enlarge View AttachmentView Attachment Grahame, great pictures, I missed them somehow. I´m pretty sure the man with the goggles is Chief Iron Nation, Lower Brule. That would match perfectly Handsome Elk´s picture, which is also of a Lower Brule leader. I´m pretty sure I´ve seen the man with the crutch before, but I´ll have to think about it... Thanks Dietmar I think we had this before we lost the TinyPic images: Taken sometime between the 1880 image posted by Californian and 1888, when photographer Hyde left for Manchester, Iowa
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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2024 15:15:09 GMT -5
Not 100% about this, but I think this is another (and is this Joseph High Eagle on the right?):
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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2024 14:57:30 GMT -5
'Pierre de Chien' is noted on official documents as Pierre Shane, Pierre Chene, and Pierre Chêne. The latter is his real surname, but descendants took up the anglicized Shane. He had several Crow wives and a brother named Tom Chêne, who also lived on the Crow Reservation in the late 1870s. He was noted to be French-Canadian and/or Metis (by his descendants!); I have never seen him mentioned as part Crow/African American, so the inital identification as Brady Jewell, who actually served as a 'Buffalo Soldier' (see his medal) seems appropriate to me. I've just received a message from someone with the name Coffrin, who has passed on the following: "LD Plainfeather advised on the Montana Historical Society posting of the image of probably Brady Jewell on Facebook: I am a descendant of Pierre DuChien, the Canadian Frenchman who was an interpreter for Sits In the Middle of the Land at Fort Parker, near present day Livingston, MT. My grandfather is George Hogan, Pierre's grandson. Pierre was married twice...to 2 Crow women. Pierre's description is mentioned in "Custer's Luck" by Edgar Stewart. He describes him as a short white man. So, this gentleman must be Brady Jewell."
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Post by grahamew on Feb 25, 2024 15:22:47 GMT -5
Unidentified. Note the three-bladed club, which may be the same one carried by Moccasin Top Unidentified Little Bull Unidentified. I believe the man on thebleftvalso worked with Doc Carver Flies Above Red Shirt Two slight variants on the same pose. The woman in the centre appears to be John Nelson's wife, Jenny; the little girl in the buckskin dress is Red Rose; the other standing woman in the buckskin dress is - I think - Ellie Irving White Fawn and baby Unidentified With Annie Oakley in the tree... Dietmar has pointed out Black Elk resting his head on his hand at the left of the image.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 24, 2024 17:11:58 GMT -5
No, I think that was the one
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Post by grahamew on Feb 24, 2024 7:17:48 GMT -5
Black, Bull, "Sioux" - taken by William Farmer of Hamilton, Ontario. From the little information I have, Farmer worked out of Hamilton in the 1870s and 1880s, so I'd guess mid-late 1880s. Is this THE Black Bull, the Sicangu headman of a small village of Lakota who did not go back to the USA after Sitting Bull's surrender in 1881?
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Post by grahamew on Feb 23, 2024 13:25:09 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Feb 23, 2024 10:41:15 GMT -5
Although the written annotation says this was taken at Fort Sully, I've also seen it suggested that it's Standing Rock and the woman seated at the right is the missionary, Mary C. Collins. If it's Standing Rock, then it was taken after 1885. However, prior to her time at Standing Rock, she spent ten years at the Oahe Mission in Peoria Bottom, which was near Fort Sully and in the other (partial) image, the Lakota woman behind her is identified as Ellen Spotted Bear and Spotted Bear was one of the headmen near Fort Sully, as we can see from this 1879 map. Perhaps that's him in the hat in the middle of the group... The 'other' version This is Collins, so I do think she is the woman sitting at the right. Edit... I've just found this: it clearly was taken at Oahe, because here's the preserved mission today: From the way the two Lakota men are dressed, I would have put this mid-late 1880s, but unless Collins was paying Oahe a visit from her home st Standing Rock, I guess not... A couple more: This is Hawk Man, the Lakota policeman - probably the one who was killed during the arrest of Sitting Bull. I think it was originally a Scott photo, if for no other reason that I suspect I grabbed it from the same source as this image of One Bull, who is dressed the same in another image taken by Scott: Has anyone another copy of the Hawk Man image or do you have any idea where I got it from...? Best I can work out, Scott was still at Fort Yates in 1891 before moving later that year to take charge of the weather bureau at Yankton. So, I wonder if this image was taken after Sitting Bull's death, which would make the man above the OTHER Hawk Man, also a policeman and also present at Grand River that day - though I admit, he doesn't look a lot like the image I've seen of him (from 1884) but, then again - though it's not easy to tell - I'm not sure he looks like the man in the Edwin Deming painting, made, I think, on a visit to Standing Rock with DeCost Smith in 1890: Finally, this image: The name attached to it was Looking Glass. Now, it's clearly not the Nez Perce Looking Glass, but who is he? Cheyenne? Who does the backdrop belong to?
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Post by grahamew on Feb 4, 2024 10:36:42 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Feb 3, 2024 9:46:09 GMT -5
A few more Snells, courtesy of Californian. Bear with me if I repeat any... However, several of the identifications in the images Californian obtained - and not just those by Snell - are incorrect, so this may be right... may be wrong... This man is identified as Lame Deer here, whereas further upthread, we have him as Lame Bear As another example, further back in the thread, this is labelled as an Arapaho group, which, I believe, is correct... Young Whirlwind Wolf Face Obviously a girl... Spotted Wolf's wife. She can be seen with Spotted Wolf in front of her tipi (with another woman; possibly another wife) in an image in the Cosand and Mosser thread - though it's possible that too is a Snell photo While I'm leaning toward this being a Snell, this is not the Black Coyote from upthread
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Post by grahamew on Feb 3, 2024 9:37:17 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Feb 3, 2024 9:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Jan 31, 2024 4:51:40 GMT -5
I´ve seen her identified as Poison, Pizen, Pisen and also Pisen´s sister. Me too.
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Post by grahamew on Jan 27, 2024 5:06:42 GMT -5
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