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Post by grahamew on Nov 29, 2008 14:05:17 GMT -5
Here are a few photos. Can anyone help with identification of Indian or photographer and, in some cases, tribal affiliation? Thanks. I have this one dated between 1890 and 1900, but no other information for it. This was labelled Barnum Indians. This was labelled General Crook and Minnesota Sioux. Is this a Hamilton? This one - African/Sioux by Eli Johnston of Evanston, Wyoming - not a photographer you'd associate with photos of Lakota. Tintype of Iron Hill and friend, 1860s-70s. Surely later? These are credited to Soule and Hamilton. I recognise the Soule photo of Asa-Toyet, the Penateka at top left and isn't the man below him the same as in the possible Hamilton above, but with his blanket rearranged? Sleeping Rabbit? 1880? The caption said Ontario Indians, but these are presumably Plains Indians taken during the visit of a Wild West Show? No information at all about this man. Or this one. Three photos from the studio of J F Coombe of Kingfisher, Oklahoma; White Man Among the Sioux, Midnight Bear and "squaw", respectively:
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 30, 2008 15:31:19 GMT -5
Grahame,
I need to go through my files. I´m sure I have the name of the first portrait somewhere... is it Bear Comes Out?
I have saved the African/Sioux man under the name Scarecrow.
Is it really Crook with the Minnesota Indians? I know he has been identified on a certain website as him, but I´m not sure if he was in that region.
I like the possible Hamilton one... though I don´t know who the Lakota (?) is.
later
Dietmar
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Post by grahamew on Dec 1, 2008 14:21:37 GMT -5
I wonder about the Crook photo too. I have another Coombe purporting to show Buffalo Meet (sic); I assume it's the Cheyenne Buffalo Meat: As in:
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Post by grahamew on Dec 5, 2008 12:52:54 GMT -5
And another - labelled Cheyenne chief:
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Post by Dietmar on Dec 5, 2008 14:37:28 GMT -5
The Lakota in the first photo in this thread is indeed Bear Comes Out. We had another photo of him with his family on the LBH boards. Ephriam´s comment is here, but somehow the photo disappeared... www.american-tribes.com/Lakota/BIO/BearComesOut.htmThe man in the photo above is Yellow Buffalo, a Kiowa delegate to Washington in 1863.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 6, 2008 3:55:22 GMT -5
Thanks, Dietmar. I thought I'd seen the 'Cheyenne' before and I thought the hairstyle was Kiowa.
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Post by Diane Merkel on Dec 7, 2008 11:06:58 GMT -5
I've found the photo, which appears to be taken at the same time as the first one posted above: I've added it to his bio. Diane
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Post by grahamew on Dec 8, 2008 2:21:56 GMT -5
Thanks, Diane.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 8, 2008 13:32:42 GMT -5
Unidentified 'Sioux', allegedly ca. 1875 Black Tomahawk, Lakota? Oglala Chief; Eason Brothers (Chadron), 1894 "Sioux Warrior" by C. R. Savage - not a photographer I'd associate with the Lakota Unidentified Lakota, n.d.
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Post by Dietmar on Dec 8, 2008 15:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Dec 10, 2008 2:33:10 GMT -5
Don't think so...
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Post by grahamew on Dec 12, 2008 2:30:14 GMT -5
When I first saw the photo, I was sure I'd seen the man elsewhere - skin leggings, cloth shirt, wavy hair, bandana. Then I remembered where - the picture of the kneeling Joseph White Bull in Vestal's book. Of course, when I realised, I checked and it's not him, but for a moment there...
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Post by grahamew on Dec 13, 2008 4:49:00 GMT -5
I have to say, the one that intrigues me is 'Black Tomahawk', because although he appears to be wearing a (military?) jacket and a scarf, the short breastplate/necklace by and large suggests an early photograph - 60s/70s. Anyhow, here are a few more: Lakota 'Brave Eagle' and wife, Lakota This was labelled as a C. R. Savage photo of Hollow Horn Bear Handsome Elk, Lakota (?). Photo by Barton, n.d. 'Sioux' man, n.d.
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Post by jinlian on Dec 13, 2008 7:44:28 GMT -5
I have to dig out the photograph from my folders, but, at first glance, I'd say that "Brave Eagle and wife" look very much like "Yankton Charlie and wife" by Godkin - I'll post a panorama image later for a better comparison.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 13, 2008 12:49:43 GMT -5
Good call!
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