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Post by charlie on Dec 5, 2012 10:24:47 GMT -5
At which band belonged MATO SKA (WHITE BEAR)? May be at "Ite Gu" (Burnt Faces) band of the well known chief Two Bears? In fact, in the list of his headmen, appears also a man called The White Bear.
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Post by charlie on Oct 31, 2012 9:55:23 GMT -5
I think that the date of the first photo of Standing Buffalo (1858) is correct. At that time, he was 25 years old and his father Wamdenica (Orphan) passed the leadership to him. In the portrait of Joel E. Whitney, S.B. wears an ancient type of tribal headdress, to confirm his new position of chief. The style of the headdress was common in the "No Flight" war society, and the many eagle plumes indicate that S.B. was a very distinguished warrior. I believe that he belonged to the band named "Wita Waziyata Otina" (People of the North Island", but I'm not sure. I also have read that in the battle of Wolf Point (Montana) he died suicide! Other info about him? And who was the other chief portraited in the second image dated 1860?
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Post by charlie on Oct 19, 2012 5:57:32 GMT -5
I don't think that the two images referred to STANDING BUFFALO (Tatanka Najin) are of the same chief. He was born in 1833 and died 5 June 1871 in battle against the Assiniboine in Montana. In the image of 1858 is a man of 25/30 years old. In the image of 1860 is a man of almost 50 years old. Which is the correct Standing Buffalo? He fought in the 1862 Santee uprising and then fleed with 500 people in Canada (Manitoba). He never surrended. I don't know at which band of the Sisseton belonged him.
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Post by charlie on Jun 14, 2012 6:10:09 GMT -5
I think that ICE (or White Bull) belonged to the O'MI'SIS (Eaters) band, but I'm not sure.
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Post by charlie on Jun 14, 2012 6:09:03 GMT -5
I think that ICE (or White Bull) belonged to the O'MI'SIS (Eaters) band, but I'm not sure.
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Post by charlie on Jun 13, 2012 11:58:03 GMT -5
I also have read that the famous chief ICE (or White Bull) was son of Black Mocassin, and then brother of White Hawk. It's right?
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Post by charlie on Jun 13, 2012 11:46:11 GMT -5
I have found the indian name of White Hawk: VOHPEAENOHE His father Black Mocassin was one of the four Northern Cheyenne Deciders at LBH. At which band belonged him (and his son)? Don't exsist images of him?
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Post by charlie on Jun 6, 2012 11:26:22 GMT -5
Great images, Grahamew! My info about WHITE HAWK: Norther Cheyenne, he belonged to "Elkhorn Scraper" warrior society. He fought at Little Big Horn. Still alive in 1908. I think he was a great warrior. Other info, please?
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Post by charlie on Jun 6, 2012 10:24:05 GMT -5
Other info about MA YE TIN (another transcription...): He signed the Medicine Lodge treaty of 1867 (but never respected it); In 25 December 1868 he fought against colonel Evans in the Soldier Spring (Oklahoma) battle; In 21 November 1873 he partecipated to the murderer of Jacob Dilsey near Cottonwood Groove, on the Canadian River (Oklahoma). He was one of the major hostile and fighter chiefs in the Red River war of 1874-75.
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Post by charlie on May 7, 2012 7:28:20 GMT -5
Still about Standing Elk: He belonged to WAGMEZAYUHA (Corn Keepers) band, not Wazhazha. Indian's name: HEHEKA NAJIN. In 1868 he signed the Fort Laramie Treaty. In September 1868 his band settled on the south side of the new "Whetstone Creek" reserve in South Dakota. Other info are appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by charlie on May 3, 2012 10:12:34 GMT -5
I'm interested about Standing Elk in the above cyanotype. I have these info about him: born circa 1810 - died after 1875. He was the son of Swift Hawk. He married White Woman and had two sons. He was an head warrior in the Spotted Tail's band (wazhazha) and attending a Sun Dance in June 1875 on Beaver Creek (Nebraska). Are correct these info? Are there other photos about him?
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Post by charlie on Jun 28, 2011 11:05:18 GMT -5
Usually, the 1851 photo above of chief Red Plume (and of the other important chief Alights on the clouds, taken in the same occasion) are attributed to Antonio Z. Shindler. But I have another info about the photographer: JOHN H. FITZGIBBON. Which is the correct? And anyone can added info about the "terrificant" RED PLUME?
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Post by charlie on Apr 6, 2011 10:35:14 GMT -5
Can anyone recognize the exact position, in the tribal circle, of the follow chiefs: -A'DO-EETTE (Big Tree) -TSEN-TAINTE (White Horse) -SET-ANGYA (Sitting Bear) -MA YE TIN (Woman's Heart) (may be in correspondance of the letter N(orth) of Kinep band? Then, I think that SETIM-KIA (Stumbling Bear) is near to TENE-ANGPOTE (Kicking Bear).
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Post by charlie on Dec 21, 2010 10:27:27 GMT -5
Wu'tapiu (a Sioux word meaning "eaters"), the band led by Black Kettle! This last belonged to Suh'tai or Sutaio (meaning unknow) band by birth, but become Wu'tapiu by marriage. About the others two chief I have: - Lean Bear (brother of the famous Bull Bear, the last chief of the warrior society "Dog Soldiers) belonged to the Hisiometa'nio (Ridge Men) band, the same of White Antelope; - War Bonnet (Ka Ko Yu'i Si Nih) belonged to Oi'vimana (Scabby People) band. Any curiosity: also the O'mi'sis band is translate as "eaters" but its origin is disputed. Some authorities claiming it as the name of an early chief of the division and others done the meaning of the name as "plain". Still, about the Suh'tai: some authors said that the meaning is "people left behind". p.s. my info from "The Cheyenne Indians - Their history and ways of life" (G. Grinnell)
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Post by charlie on Dec 17, 2010 3:22:50 GMT -5
Jeroen: the correct line-up of your photo is (from left to right): Standing in the Water - War Bonnet - Lean Bear
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