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Post by charlie on Nov 28, 2017 7:13:58 GMT -5
I'm very surprise that yet don't exsist a thread dedicated to this great chief. I try to started one. SPOTTED WOLF (Ho'neohvovo'haestse) born in 1820 in O'mi'sis (Eaters) band of Northern Cheyenne. He married a sister of famous chief Black Kettle and also a youngest sister of famous warrior Yellow Nose. He had two sons that also became important chiefs: White Shield and White Elk. In 1867 he and Turkey Leg raided against a train near Plum Creek (Nebraska) killing many men. In 1868 he fought with honour in the battle of Beecher Island, saving any lame warriors under the enemy fire. In 1873 he visit Washington and meet President Grant. In 1876 he fought with great courage in the battle of Rosebud and LBH, where he was injured at an eye. He died in 1896. Other info? Thanks.
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Post by charlie on Nov 25, 2017 7:08:55 GMT -5
So, we must labelled BRAVE WOLF in this way: born around 1840 in Suhtai band (Southern Cheyenne); nepew of holy man Box Elder. After, by marriage with Corn Woman, he belonged to O'mi'sis band of Northern Cheyenne. Date of death uncertain: 1910 or after 1926. Every other info and corrections are appreciated.
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Post by charlie on Nov 24, 2017 15:10:40 GMT -5
I'm agree with you Kingsley: in the three chiefs photo (speaking of: who is the man in the middle??) Brave Wolf looks circa 40. I have found the date of birth in this book: Cheyenne memories of the Custer fight (Richard G. Hardorff) where is confirmed that he was son of HORN, a famous prophet of the Northern (...therefore O'mi'sis) Cheyenne.
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Post by charlie on Nov 23, 2017 12:42:31 GMT -5
Then, if he was born in 1820, we see in the photo a man aged 58. He looks a bit more young...
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Post by charlie on Nov 23, 2017 12:09:43 GMT -5
BRAVE WOLF (Ho'neo Xhaaestse) Northern Cheyenne, O'mi'sis (Eaters) band. Born about 1820; his father Horn was a famous shaman; his wife Corn Woman was a sister of the chief Mad Head. In the period 1866-1876 he became a Hohnuhk'e (Contrary). He fought with honour in the Rosebud and LBH battles, especially against Reno's troopers. In April 1877 he surrended with Two Moon band and became a scout under general Nelson Miles. In this role, he fought in the attack to Lame Deer village and in the pursuit of Chief Joseph (Nez Percè).His son was named Lone Elk. He died in 1910 (other sources give him yet alive in 1926). I have seen other images (more aged) of him, but that above (seated with hat and rifle) is the best. No date of it?
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Post by charlie on Sept 25, 2017 10:19:14 GMT -5
I think that Long Soldier belonged to Che Ohba (Droopy thingy) band, the same band of famous chiefs such as Bear Ribs and Rain in the Face.
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Post by charlie on Jul 13, 2017 9:31:32 GMT -5
Kingsley: thank you for your good explanation. Judging from the photos, I too believe that his date of birth is 1840 or before. About the translation of his name: No Flesh understood as "hungry" or understood as "lean"? CONICA=? WANICA=?
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Post by charlie on Jul 12, 2017 5:57:02 GMT -5
Then, we can to resume this thread so: - the most famous NO FLESH (who appears in all photos above except the last) was Kuhinyan (Oglala) by birth and became Wazhazha (Brulè) by marriage with Smoke; - Shell Woman was the wife of another homonym chief; - the most famous NO FLESH born in 1845 and died in 1889 at Pine Ridge (and not after 1916); he belonged to the Ihoka (Badger) warrior society and was not the informant of J. Walker; - the No Flesh who fought with honour at LBH (see Mary Sandoz) was a Brulè and there are not images of him. It's all right or not yet?
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Post by charlie on Jul 10, 2017 9:54:30 GMT -5
Great photos, especially that of Mitchell. It's should be very interesting to see an image of the other NO FLESH (Brulè) that fought at LBH. In the battle, he killed a guidon bearer and took the flag... A very brave man!
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Post by charlie on Jul 8, 2017 11:15:39 GMT -5
Born in 1845, he belonged to Kuhinyan band of Oglala subdivision. Indian name: CONICA WANICA In 1872 he partecipated at a peace delegation in Washington. In 1877 he became scout of U.S.Army. Later, he lived in Pine Ridge reservation. He had two wifes: Smoke and Shell Woman. There are many and wonderful images of him; I hope that Dietmar and the others experts post its. Can anyone added other info about him?
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Post by charlie on Jul 5, 2017 7:52:35 GMT -5
Another web mistake! And so dont' exsist image of Red Horse (Minneconjou)? I have seen many interesting images of the chief NO FLESH (Oglala). Any info about him? And any info about RED HORSE (Sihasapa)? Thanks at all.
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Post by charlie on Jul 3, 2017 15:22:35 GMT -5
RED HORSE (Tasunka Luta) - I always have seen this chief labelled (Wikipedia, Pinterest, etc.) as "Minneconjou" not "Sihasapa". What are the correct band and subdivision of birth?
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Post by charlie on Dec 7, 2016 11:31:56 GMT -5
Thank you Gorka for your new identification. So, no Tsisnan and no Yanozha.... This man (Atelnietze) is very fascinating: he seems a very proud warrior!
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Post by charlie on Apr 10, 2016 10:03:52 GMT -5
Dietmar: about the wonderful image of "Sioux delegation 1870" (photographer?) can you post a clipping (as well for Red Fox) of the three other unknown chiefs Living Bear - Rocky Bear and Bear Skin? And can anyone to add a brief bio of them? (date of birth and death, band of belonged, indian name, etc...). Thanks.
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Post by charlie on Mar 11, 2015 11:41:56 GMT -5
Another extract from his tale:"...I found my war bonnet, shield and my quiver full of arrows. While I was putting on my war bonnet and shield, bullets were hitting all around me and bullets were hitting the lodges like hard storm. On way up (Sand Creek) the feathers of my war bonnet were shot away and my shield was shot several times, but I did not get hit". Indeed, he was very lucky to survive to the massacre. Any info about the chief BIG HEAD killed at Sand Creek?
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