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Post by clw on Aug 2, 2008 9:28:44 GMT -5
When they named the puppy Cepa, I knew ....
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Post by clw on Aug 1, 2008 8:52:26 GMT -5
Frank ~
Since the High Bear family settled on Cheyenne River, that's indicative of at least his later years being Mnicoujou.
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Post by clw on Jul 31, 2008 12:15:12 GMT -5
So in the middle there it is the same Miniconjou Tall Bear as this one is: Yes. I lightened up the group photo on my computer and they are definately the same man -- Tall Bear. Not High Bear.
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Post by clw on Jul 31, 2008 11:57:19 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I was reading back over this thread. There was a reference to "High(Tall) Bear". 'High' and 'Tall' are not interchangable, in other words...
wakantuya - high, as in the dwelling place of a higher power hanska - tall, as in a tall tree
So that should eliminate one man, at least. Hump's medicine man, Tall Bear isn't the same as our High Bear. I will see what I can find out about the Mnicoujou (Holy) High Bear. Then maybe we can nail down which bio fits.
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Post by clw on Jul 31, 2008 11:20:19 GMT -5
I thought so Frank, but I just wanted to be sure. His CR family consider him Mnicoujou. And White Bull's CR family consider HIM Mnicoujou also. FWIW.
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Post by clw on Jul 31, 2008 8:36:50 GMT -5
Could someone please confirm for me which photo is the Mnicoujou as I'd like to forward it to his family on Cheyenne River. According to them the correct translation of his name is Holy (or Sacred) High Bear, another name that was shortened when recorded.
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Post by clw on Jul 28, 2008 6:47:07 GMT -5
Very funny. You have no idea how often I've been teased about that particular delicacy. No wait, yes you do. So far I haven't been cornered, but it's only a matter of time.
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Post by clw on Jul 27, 2008 9:00:35 GMT -5
So they aren't sold there anymore? Last time I checked they were around $2 each. But then everything is skyrocketing. They ARE really good for you, but try as I might, I can't seem to develop a taste for wasna.
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Post by clw on Jul 26, 2008 8:43:39 GMT -5
Sometimes in the top ad banner here, you'll see a link to Lakota Foods. So I thought I'd pass along the fact that their popcorn and buffalo jerky is delicious!
Their products very affordable and are carried in the Lakota Tribal Market on Cheyenne River. Last time I was there, I brought home enough for all my friends. The company is located on the Lower Brule rez where they grow the corn and the buff.
I'm always happy to see a thriving cottage industry on the rez, and this one is a class act.
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Post by clw on Jul 25, 2008 19:01:38 GMT -5
I have to admit, I had the same thought. But I figured is was strictly a personal view. The ones chosen are extra special and look fantastic. You must admit, it's pretty hard to find a dramatic, high resolution photo of a Mohawk. And no matter how you choose, someone will be left out. I dunno.
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Post by clw on Jul 25, 2008 16:01:03 GMT -5
When Kicking Bear married a relation of Big Foots', he became a band leader of the Minniconjou. Yet after he returned from the Wild West show he went to live with his family at Pine Ridge. So he must have still considered himself Oglala? Maybe. But my guess is he considered himself a Lakota first with relatives in multiple bands. That's a great example of what I'm talking about and wasn't at all unusual. Unfortunately, we have to accept that our neat little filing system won't always work. OMG, Diane. There's no spell checker here! I'll be exposed as illiterate!
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Post by clw on Jul 25, 2008 10:59:49 GMT -5
Diane, I don't know what to tell you and I certainly understand your concern. Some of course are obvious, but with those in question it's a sifting process that I think has to be evaluated in terms of the specific individual. If there's strong debate as to who belongs where, listing in both seems fair.
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Post by clw on Jul 25, 2008 9:02:00 GMT -5
You're looking for rules that didn't exist. Family groups were constantly in a state of flux as leaders changed, feuds occured, and inlaws were acquired. Lineage was very important, but it didn't preclude movements between bands. Which is why the determinations we try to make are so difficult. Who belonged where is of more interest to us now than it was among the people in the buffalo days.
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Post by clw on Jul 24, 2008 11:15:13 GMT -5
Would it be too cumbersome to keep the band categories and just move them out to the main list?... Then subjects something like --"Teton/Lakota", "Hunkpapa Lakota", 'Mnicoujou Lakota", etc. Less clicking that way too. I see this morning you've done it. I like it much better! Thanks!
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Post by clw on Jul 23, 2008 7:57:27 GMT -5
I can't quite follow the geneology posted, but maybe Ladonna is tracing a Hunkpapa connection. I've been told by his grandson that White Bull is Mnicoujou.
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