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Post by Diane Merkel on Jul 15, 2008 13:52:15 GMT -5
Charlie would like to know if anyone can add a bio or info about this chief. Was he Miniconjou or Hunkpapa?
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Post by tatanka on Jul 15, 2008 14:46:03 GMT -5
Diane. There was a High Bear aka Tall Bear who was at the LBH. He was Sans Arc and died in 1910. I don't know if it is the one you referred to.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 15, 2008 16:42:19 GMT -5
FWIW I have this particular High Bear as Miniconjou
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Post by jmccalla44 on Jul 15, 2008 20:47:24 GMT -5
The Sans Arc, High Bear was one of the leaders of the Sans Arc/Minniconjou village that decided to surrender at Spotted Tail in the Spring of '77.
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Post by frank on Jul 15, 2008 23:14:33 GMT -5
I have also this same HB ranked to be as Miniconjou... if some disagrees please explain... otherwise if someone comes up with good bio on him, I'd be happy to use it on my website too...with credits of course.
Diane, you are talking about Charlie the Italian Stallion right? Is he registered in here or what.... I didnt see him on members list?
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Post by tatanka on Jul 16, 2008 3:06:40 GMT -5
frank. According to the Warrior List at the LBH website he was Sans Arc.
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 3:28:13 GMT -5
Ok, I'll need to check my sources....I just have a strong feeling about him to be Miniconjou but it wouldnt be first time I'm wrong... I'll get back to this later. Dee Brown listed him as Miniconjou on some book if I recall right... Fighting Indians or something was the book... Let me know if you get some back up information for the Sans Arc theory. Thanks.
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 3:29:41 GMT -5
The Sans Arc, High Bear was one of the leaders of the Sans Arc/Minniconjou village that decided to surrender at Spotted Tail in the Spring of '77. Soooo..... because of this he was listed as Sans Arc though he infact was a Miniconjou...right? Oooor...was it other way around?
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Post by tatanka on Jul 16, 2008 5:37:06 GMT -5
Confusing or what?! I'll try to get more info about him.
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 8:28:58 GMT -5
Dang... my father just messaged to me that when he checked it Utley said he is Oglala and Vestal claims him to be Brule ;D ;D I don't have a clue anymore to what band High Bear (the one in that specific picture) belongs to... wicked...
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Post by tatanka on Jul 16, 2008 13:34:33 GMT -5
Just to confuse matters more, there were two High Bears! Both aka Tall Bear. One was Sans Arc, the other Northern Cheyenne.
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 13:35:36 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 13:37:55 GMT -5
;D well anywhoo I'm now interested to know what HB is the one on this specific pic that is shown on this post?
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Post by tatanka on Jul 16, 2008 15:14:26 GMT -5
I'm as confused as you are. Minniconjou? Hunkpapa? Sans Arc? Cheyenne? I'll go for Sans Arc. Other suggestions welcome! The language is certainly Lakota.
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Post by frank on Jul 16, 2008 15:20:02 GMT -5
Just to make this even more tricky... here is Tall Bear Miniconjou:
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