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Post by swa562 on Jun 21, 2018 0:39:22 GMT -5
According to the Statement of Domestic Animals on San Carlos Indian Reservation, Arizona Territory 1878. Mickey Free owned (6) Mares, (4) Stock Cattle, and (14) Sheep. I certify that the above statement is correct. San Carlos, Arizona Territory. June 26th, 1878. H.L Hart United States Indian Agent.
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Post by swa562 on Jun 20, 2018 23:56:57 GMT -5
Mickey Free was kidnapped by a tribe called the Aravaipa Apaches. (Not clear on the spelling). Later the name kind of disappeared and members became known as the San Carlos Apaches. Or the San Carlos people. They lived amongst several tribes at the San Carlos Agency, or in today's name the San Carlos Indian Reservation, home of the San Carlos Apaches. There are descendants who know the story as they tell their version. I heard their words they speak. They have a certain percentage of truth in the matter. However, they said they raised him. John Rope says the Black Rope family raised him. So we have a mystery of who story is correct. They both have written history, and both may be true. John Rope says that Mickey Free was given to his father by the San Carlos people. Mickey Free lived on the Reservation.
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Post by swa562 on Mar 29, 2017 21:30:52 GMT -5
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Post by swa562 on Jan 28, 2017 1:14:11 GMT -5
The census record of 1860 lists the family. Felix Martinez was written. It is said that John Ward named him Mickey or Mick, being Irish, meaning son in the Irish culture. The name Free might of been given to him by the Apache Scouts as he found his new freedom in the military as he was no longer a captive. He was a free man. His kidnapping, started the longest war in the history of the United States, about 25 years with the Chiricahua Apaches. His parents were from New Mexico, however after he was kidnapped his mother believing he was dead, passed on and was buried in Magdalena, Sonora, Mexico.
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Post by swa562 on Jan 28, 2017 0:37:51 GMT -5
This is the census record of 1860 at Fort Buchanan.
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Post by swa562 on Oct 31, 2016 20:37:14 GMT -5
That photo is sure an old classic.
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Post by swa562 on Apr 14, 2015 20:57:34 GMT -5
they should of cut these traders throats. Mickey free should have been to his drunk dad or chucked off a canyon wall Who's they? Who's throat are you going to cut? Who's a trader? They fought for their country. It's called the United States of America. You see, my family lived in Arizona. We lived with the Chiricahuas. They were at war with Spain for 250 years, then with Mexico for 50 years, then with the United States of America for 25 years. That's over 300 years of killing. Geronimo was no Alter Boy, and neither were the Chiricahua Apaches. They are my cousins by tribal clan. If it wasn't for Mickey Free and Alchesay, the United States would of killed all of the Chiricahua Apaches. They were wanted for murder in the state of Arizona. If you lived their during that time your family would of been attacked even if you were an Indian. They kidnapped all people. It was part of their economy. I get a kick of people who call United States Indian Scouts "Traders"! They don't know history. They only know what they think, not the real story of the truth. They don't talk about all the thousands of people that died during the Wars of the Chiricahua. For the record, the Chiricahua was the second most costly tribe next to the Comanche Indians that costed the United States millions of dollars. The Chricahua killed priests, burn down churches, killed women and children, stole horses, cows, people, stoned people to death, expert rock throwers. Killed many military from all three countries. While others tribes were living in peace and trying to raise their families. Not everybody was into killing. In fact, Geronimo surrendered three times that I know of. But, he thought he could gain more by killing. When he surrendered he had money, horses, blankets, serapes, and Santiago Mckinn, and guns with two bullet belts per warrior.
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Post by swa562 on Apr 14, 2015 20:16:59 GMT -5
Look everybody... These photos have the same rock. Attachments:
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Post by swa562 on Nov 4, 2013 22:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by swa562 on Oct 6, 2012 20:12:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the photos. Some of those photos I have. But the quality of these photos that you posted are better. One problem I have in doing research is identifying the other Indian Scouts. I am not an expert on them but they did risk their life like everybody else who fought during the Apache Wars for 25 years.
I also have a problem with the amount of settlers that were killed, and the amount of soldiers that were killed. Nobody really knows and nobody is saying anything. I heard that there was over 2,000 Scouts in Arizona. Who knows how many there was throughout the United States. They also fought during the civil war because it was their land they were fighting for. So, there is a lot of research to cover. Thanks
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Post by swa562 on Sept 29, 2012 11:45:14 GMT -5
William Alchesay (May 17, 1853 - August 6, 1928) He received the Congressional Medal of Honor in 1875 for his service during the Apache Wars. Attachments:
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Post by swa562 on Sept 29, 2012 2:00:37 GMT -5
Mickey Free wearing a sarape, bright colored woolen poncho. Attachments:
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Post by swa562 on Sept 28, 2012 23:04:20 GMT -5
Mickey Free wasn't Irish. His step father John Ward was Irish and his mother Jesusa Martinez was Mexican/Indian perhaps Pima Indian who's territory was in Sonora, Mexico all the way up to Tucson, Arizona and along the Gila River.
Mickey Free always claimed to be mixed Irish and Mexican according to a "Descriptive statement of proposed changes in the Indian Police Force at San Carlos Agency" during November 30, 1882. In the beginning he was a Private making $15.00 dollars a month. He also was a Lieutenant making $20.00 a month and was reduced for disrespectful language to Chief. This record shows a descriptive statement of certain changes in the Police Force at San Carlos.
His cause was to scout for the military. His nation was Apache and the name of the tribe was Coyotero and the name of the band was Biulka birthplace Mexico. This record of Indian Police at San Carlos 1881 - 1882 Agency Arizona. In this record sheet you can see all the names of the Indian Police who have served the United States of America. There is about 99 pages maybe a thousand listings or more. Never seen the whole copy.
Legend says that once an Apache Warrior has died, that their name cannot be mentioned. I will honor their tradition and not list them.
His age at the time was 28 years old making him born in 1853 give or take a year. He was 5"- 8" height, 137 weight.
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Post by swa562 on Sept 28, 2012 22:23:14 GMT -5
Here is a copy of the 1860 Census of the Ward household. Attachments:
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Post by swa562 on Sept 28, 2012 22:13:43 GMT -5
Pima Indians where a peaceful tribe. They are known for making pima baskets, pottery, and farming. My family lived there in the Sonoita Creek area in the desert across from Tombstone and Fort Huachuca and Tucson in the 1850s and then the family went to Los Angeles in the 1920's.
Currently this year I contacted the Sharlot Hall Museum in Prescott, Arizona and I requested information on Mickey Free. They sent me the blue sheets: Mickey Free, from a speech given by Dr. Kenneth Calhoun at a Prescott Westerner's meeting. And he said something interesting. An 1860 Census listed Felix Martinez as a twelve year old male. This is the real name of Mickey Free. This Census was taken at Fort Buchanan. In January 27, 1861 the Ward ranch was raided, John Ward was in Sonoita at the time, and he was away from the ranch.
I checked the 1860 Census on Archives.com and here it is. It's public record so don't tell my family. I don't write this stuff. It was already written before I was born.
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