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Post by clw on Dec 14, 2014 21:35:18 GMT -5
I bought this book. I was going to take it to Good Will, but I didn't because I didn't want anyone else to read such poor history.
John Monnett's article referenced above, "Reimagining Transitional Kansas Landscapes: Environment and Violence", is here...
www.kshs.org/publicat/history/2011winter_monnett.pdf
Excellent reading!
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Post by clw on Oct 9, 2009 11:23:58 GMT -5
Re. location of a Crow village this far east: as this happened in 1822, this is plausible. I thought the Crow were based in the Yellowstone/Rocky Mt. area during this time period. Hyde says they were "pushed by the Tetons to remove westward into the country beyond the Powder River by 1800". And "during the period 1800-1825 the Oglalas were hunting each summer in the plains east of the Black Hills". A Crow war party would believable, but this one is said to include women, children and elders. It just doesn't seem likely to me.
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Post by clw on Oct 7, 2009 18:03:11 GMT -5
Yes, very dubious. And I read the account of the Battle of Crow Butte that took place in Nebraska. Oddly the two stories have a lot of similarities. Also odd that such a large (one assumes from the story) party of Crows were camped so deep in Sioux territory, but I suppose it's possible.
Nice to see someone else protesting the word 'squaw'. I try, but I never get far
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Post by clw on Oct 7, 2009 10:28:25 GMT -5
The marker was placed by the Butte Co. Historical Society. Their email address is shepherd@starband.net. Perhaps they can provide the source for the marker.
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Post by clw on Oct 7, 2009 8:55:57 GMT -5
I just finished Marquis' bio of Tom LaForge, Memoirs of a White Crow Indian. It's a fantastic read. Tom and Mitch were very close. Tom married Mitch's wife, Magpie Outside, in the NDN tradition after Mitch was killed.
Tom confirms Mitch's mother was Santee. There are many tales of their adventures that provide a wonderful perspective of how these men lived in NDN society.
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Post by clw on Oct 4, 2009 11:36:27 GMT -5
Googleing 'Battle of Crow Butte' brought up many references including several Google Book Results.
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Post by clw on Nov 13, 2008 9:05:34 GMT -5
I know the storm was horrid. CR and SR didn't get hit as hard. Their power was "only" out for four days and phone service was on and off. Mostly off. I heard that the snow drifted against the house was a blessing as it provided good insulation -- even though it necessitated crawling out a window -- and there was much stapling of blankets over windows and doors. Good grief. I've drug my kerosene heater out of the garage and am going to ship it -- like I really need it in FL. This is predicted to be a very bad winter, so lend a hand where you can.
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Post by clw on Nov 7, 2008 16:06:49 GMT -5
Their actions in the fight are mentioned in "Arikara Narratives", which you probably have read. No, I haven't read it -- just the excerpts in The Custer Myth. Which is ridiculous, all things considered. But you know how it goes with reading lists. Aha! That would answer one of my major questions. Thanks Dietmar.... interested in anything you find.
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Post by clw on Nov 6, 2008 13:48:02 GMT -5
Logical. Thanks, Graham. I didn't mean inter tribal and should have said so.
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Post by clw on Nov 6, 2008 13:04:29 GMT -5
True, when the 'h' is added to Lakota it's easier to understand the 'k' comes more from the back of the throat. But it's more obvious in these other examples:
Sicangu/Sichangu tiospaye/tiyoshpaye Aske/Ashke
It's also interesting that the Miniconjou people I know write it as 'Mnicoujou'. Written Lakota is really variable.
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Post by clw on Nov 6, 2008 12:53:20 GMT -5
There were four Dakota scouts with Custer in 1876, according to army records. At least the army refers to them as Dakota. I think, to the Army in 1876, all Sioux were Dakota. They were: Bear Waiting/Spotted Horn Cloud age 50, 10th enlistment, 2/3/76
Caroo/Bear in Timber/Karu age 41, 2nd enlistment, 5/11/76
White Cloud age 21, 3rd enlistment, 5/14/76
Buffalo Ancestor/The Whole Buffalo/Round Wooden Cloud age 32, 2nd enlistment, 3/31/76 There is evidence that they all crossed the LBH and fought in connection with driving off the Lakota pony herds. I'd like to learn more about them. Can anyone contribute?
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Post by clw on Nov 6, 2008 12:23:05 GMT -5
I do agree, Kingsley. We lose the whole concept of Lakota 'families' as they once were when we try to define them in modern terms.
As an side -- I've always wondered why we don't write Lakota phonetically as it seems so much simpler than all the various alphabets. It's refreshing to read you doing that.
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Post by clw on Nov 3, 2008 21:05:22 GMT -5
Were there any? I heard it said recently there weren't. Can this be true?
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Post by clw on Nov 3, 2008 15:41:13 GMT -5
I've never heard anything but great respect expressed toward Pete Catches, but I didn't know he had taught Floyd. Gives me a lot to think about. In a good way.
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Post by clw on Aug 4, 2008 18:40:34 GMT -5
When Kicking Bear married a relation of Big Foots', he became a band leader of the Minniconjou. Yet after he returned from the Wild West show he went to live with his family at Pine Ridge. So he must have still considered himself Oglala? Tatanka, this may interest you. A Mnicoujou friend of mine considers him a relative, for what that's worth. "Ghost Shirts were more a creation of one of my relatives, Kicking Bear. It was his vision that the shirts held the power, and were bullet proof. He had no basis to asume this, but the people were in a desperate state. The people had felt as if god had forsaken them, and Kicking Bear was one of two embassadors to Wavoka."
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