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Post by perico on May 26, 2010 10:22:51 GMT -5
This is supposed to be Fort Pickens. Any ideas on this one? Hope you guys enjoy. Attachments:
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Post by perico on May 26, 2010 10:21:53 GMT -5
This is Chihuahua's group on a ferry, going to St Augustine. Feel free to work on the ID's. Nana is fairly obvious. Attachments:
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Post by perico on May 26, 2010 10:19:50 GMT -5
That looks like a positive id to me. Thanks. Imma post a couple of rare ones for you guys today.
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Post by perico on May 25, 2010 13:43:07 GMT -5
It was a gift. How sure are you that its Toclanny?
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Post by perico on May 24, 2010 8:28:48 GMT -5
Thats Perico on the left, and Naiche on the right, who is in the center? This picture is from Mount Vernon Barracks. Attachments:
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 10:01:50 GMT -5
Also, lets try and keep this thread to strictly Florida, not in route to Florida or after Florida.
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 10:00:52 GMT -5
It took me some time to figure that one out myself.
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 9:59:36 GMT -5
Do the young man in the front left, and the man in the front center resemble Kanseah and Yahnozha to anyone?
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 9:58:36 GMT -5
Naiches,
Do you have a high resolution version of this image? Jereon, please check your private messages.
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 9:57:37 GMT -5
If I had a higher resolution version of the image, I might be able to help. This is one of the only ones I am missing from my collection of Reed and Wallace pictures.
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Post by perico on May 22, 2010 9:55:43 GMT -5
If you look at the group picture of the men in Chihuahua's bunch, the man identified as Colle, looks alot like the man identified as Colle in Jay Van Orden's publication. I'll keep working on the Jozhe deal.
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Post by perico on May 21, 2010 14:32:06 GMT -5
Beshe is not a brother to those two. Im looking into Kutli/Colle thing, not sure myself. And I have seen that man in white identified as Jozhe in a publication put out by the Arizona Historical Society by Jay Van Orden. Its a small pamphlet style book that has the entire set of C.S. Fly pictures from Canyon De Los Embudos. There are some errors, but he has done the best identifications than anyone else. I know there is an early picture of Jozhe at Carlisle, a studio portrait. I am still working on this big project though so I cant really compare. It would make sense if it was Jozhe, but still, its a guess. If you guys are going to look into the Colle/Kutli thing on your own, keep in mind that Colle was definately also known as Cah-leh, he was Warm Springs Apache, and was definately with Chihuahuas band at the time of surrender.
As for the "Where was Tsisnah" thing, one scenario is that he may have became a scout and thats why he isnt listed or seen with Mangus, Chihuahua, or Naiche's group. Thats one theory anyway.
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Post by perico on May 20, 2010 9:13:13 GMT -5
Have you seen that name in anything else like a book or anything?
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Post by perico on May 19, 2010 12:17:52 GMT -5
check the image at medicinemangallery.com Most of those identifications are false.
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Post by perico on May 18, 2010 16:29:40 GMT -5
I've seen him identified as "Hustianney Where? Hosteen does refer to an Old Man.
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