John
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Post by John on Jun 8, 2010 12:36:46 GMT -5
I would be very grateful if anyone could provide some information about Padohgai or White Face Buffalo Bull, Kaigwu Kiowa. Have not found any details of his life so far.
If you have, please let me know.
John Groeneveld
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Post by wyman on Dec 9, 2010 1:54:16 GMT -5
The name "Padohgai," or "White Faced Buffalo Bull," is said to have been the original name of a prominent chief later known as Doha' or Doha'te, meaning "Bluff." I have been told by a Kiowa historian that the name "Doha'te" is supposed to have originated from a landmark in Wyoming, from a time when the Kiowas still lived in that northern country. Padohgai, or Doha'te was said to have been the father of the famous Kiowa tribal chief, Doha'san, or "Little Bluff," who ruled the Kiowa tribe from 1833 until his death in the winter of 1865-66. (James Mooney, "Calendar History of the Kiowa Indians," p. 263, p. 399) The name "Little Bluff," in this correlation, may not then be a reference to a small bluff, but rather, a distinction between the son and his father.I can find no other information regarding this obscure individual, but it is probable that he was a warrior of some significance. The support for this statement comes from references to a famous Kiowa shield, called the "Padohgai shield." The most information regarding this shield comes from the book, "Silver Horn, Master Illustrator of the Kiowas," by Smithsonian anthropologist Candace S. Greene, pp. 34-35. The shield was a family heirloom, originating with Padohgai, who received the shield design in a vision. It was yellow with blue dots around the circumference of a central disk, with a larger blue dot in the center. On the shield were attached a crow tail feathers, an eagle tail feather, antelope hoofs, two yellow cow tails with a cowbell attached, and a horse tail. Padohgai passed the shield to his son with instructions regarding the necessary rituals relating to the caretaking of the shield. A copy of the Padohgai shield was given by Dohasan to his nephew Agiati, and the shield rights were later passed down to Dohasan's son Haba.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 9:08:52 GMT -5
on carry the kettle, louis wahpahah son Sam White Cap father is sometimes marked Face White and on lists missing louis name and lists with his name are missing louis's is White Face Bull, he was born 1858-1860ish, where do i look for 'people' living still, he literally has a white face thanks for the information above as well, 1 person family of Lt 'miles crazy walking' gnaskinyan mani has stated through oral wiceyena dakota tradition passed down is that gnashkinyan mani and wahpahah 'white cap' were brothers of the same sissetonwan/wahpekute unknown mother, gnashkinyan mani father was left hand bear, wahpahah father is unknown, if there is a connection please let me know
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 9:20:50 GMT -5
he left for dakota country(cypress hills) when sitting bull is shot, i dont know when, but he gets my great grandmother to carry the kettle treaty 4 south central saskatchewan, my great grandmother is1 of Cega Appappi American Wife's, he shot and killed a police on dec/15th/1890, wahpahah was also on site listed under HAT, Officer Louis Hat, Wahpahah, he is also on 1885, in 1 of the 4, Upper Yanktonnai, standing rock ration sheet, him and 'ki-wi-ya'/gee-wee-yah(american/canadian) red cloud band 2 oglala parents her and louis have a son, they are under Treaty 4 Stragglers, they hid out on carry the kettle, my grandfather is son of wahpahah/ on 1 sheet in 1885 Son of Wah-Pah-Ha is listed with Chief Tepee Hoksa(Long Lodge) so pre/post america's my family has been located already in the cypress hills, it seem louis goes back to his Fathers tribe, who may or may not have been aprt of long lodge tribe, or maybe wahpahah was at the 1877 Sundance with long lodge inviting sitting bull, kiwinyan 'might' be yellow hair woman of sitting bull surrender ledger, they are the only two connected to that date, and all the police connections set in from there, there is absolutley no history, the military will hopefull have records?
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