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Post by Historian on Apr 18, 2009 7:28:53 GMT -5
Shining Iron - Mdewakanton - 1858 Shining Iron - Mdewakanton - 1858 Shining Iron - Mdewakanton - 1858 The Thief - Mdewakanton - 1858 His Own Thunder - Mdewakanton - 1858 Little Crow (aka Hawk That Hunts Walking) - Mdewakanton - 1858 Little Crow (aka Hawk That Hunts Walking) - Mdewakanton - 1858 Big Eagle - Mdewakanton - 1858 Big Eagle - Mdewakanton - 1858 Iron Elk - Mdewakanton - 1858 Passing Hail - Mdewakanton - 1858 Little Six - Mdewakanton - 1858 U-Se-Do-Ha - Mdewakanton - 1860 Cut Nose - Mdewakanton - 1862 Little Crow - Mdewakanton - 1862 One Who Comes In Sight - Mdewakanton - 1864 Little Six - Mdewakanton - 1865 Little Six - Mdewakanton - 1865 Medicine Bottle - Mdewakanton - 1865 Medicine Bottle - Mdewakanton - 1865 Cut Nose - Mdewakanton - 1867 Scarlet Night - Mdewakanton - 1867 Sacred Hawk (aka His People Are Red), son of Little Crow - Mdewakanton - 1869 Napoleon Wabasha - Mdewakanton - 1902
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Post by Historian on Jun 9, 2009 10:27:15 GMT -5
Standing L-R: Big Eagle, Passing Hail, Red Legs Sitting L-R: Medicine Bottle, The Thief, unknown - Mdewakanton - 1858
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Post by jinlian on Jun 9, 2009 10:48:24 GMT -5
Sacred Hawk (aka His People Are Red), son of Little Crow - Mdewakanton - 1869 Isn't this man Little Crow himself (his real name was in fact Taoyateduta "His People Are Red)? I know the Smithsonian has labeled this image as "Little Crow jr." but the photos were taken by the same photographer (Vannerson) who took the 1858 delegation pictures. Also, Little Crow's son, named Wowinape, was born around 1847, which would make him about 22 in 1869, while the man in the photograph looks much older. I remember there's a photograph of Wowinape in Gary Anderson's Little Crow, spokesman for the Sioux - I'll try to post it later.
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Post by jinlian on Jun 9, 2009 11:25:28 GMT -5
One Who Comes In Sight - Mdewakanton - 1864 Above, the photograph of Wowinape posted by Hin Tamaheca and here's another one, taken in the same period:
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Post by emilylevine on Jun 9, 2009 21:13:46 GMT -5
From a footnote I'm working on (draft) regarding Little Six and Medicine Bottle: Little Six’s fate was much more bizarre. In 1864, he and another Mdewakaŋtoŋ participant in the uprising were captured in Canada by trickery and by drugging them by plying them with copious quantities of laudanum laced alcohol, binding them, and forcefully—and illegally—transporting them back to the United States. A trial found them guilty, although legal wrangling concerning their extralegal capture and kidnapping eventually went all the way to President Andrew Johnson who confirmed their convictions. Little Six and Medicine Bottle also known as Rustling Wind Walker (Big Eagle’s brother) were hung at Fort Snelling on November 11, 1865 while a crowd of thousands [??] watched. The drugging and kidnapping of these two Dakota men is told in Alan R. Woolworth, “A Disgraceful Proceeding: Intrigue in the Red River Country in 1864.” James A. Howard gives Medicine Bottle an additional name, “T’ate Ic’asna Mani ‘Wind Rustling Walker’ ” in The Canadian Sioux, 28.
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 10, 2009 14:51:51 GMT -5
I´ve seen the above photo often designated as Chief Little Crow. But to me he doesn´t look like him. I don´t know where Hin has it´s information from, but I tend to believe he is indeed Little Crow´s son.
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Post by gorkinoff on Jun 10, 2009 16:44:25 GMT -5
Isn't this man Little Crow himself (his real name was in fact Taoyateduta "His People Are Red)? I know the Smithsonian has labeled this image as "Little Crow jr." but the photos were taken by the same photographer (Vannerson) who took the 1858 delegation pictures. Also, Little Crow's son, named Wowinape, was born around 1847, which would make him about 22 in 1869, while the man in the photograph looks much older. I remember there's a photograph of Wowinape in Gary Anderson's Little Crow, spokesman for the Sioux - I'll try to post it later. -jinlian I´ve seen the above photo often designated as Chief Little Crow. But to me he doesn´t look like him. I don´t know where Hin has it´s information from, but I tend to believe he is indeed Little Crow´s son.-Dietmar Cetanwakuamani (He who hunts sparrowhawks walking)-is Another name for Little Crow (Uprising Leader) Cetanwakuamani (17??-1846)Served in the War of 1812 Against the United States on the side of British Canada...He also signed the Pike treaty of 1805 (ceding the land for Ft. Snelling to the United States) This would be the father of Little Crow (Taoyateduta-His Red Nation(18??-1863) --Mdewakanton Chief from the Minnesota Uprising This Photo has Taoyateduta labelled as Tshe-Ton-Wa-Ku-Wa-Ma-Ni (Cetanwakuamani) His fathers name (he possibly also went by this name (carrying it foreward) But the broken arm is visible in both photos (or is it?)...and you can see that both photo's have a slightly droopy eye (or is it?) and if you could look inside his mouth you would find two complete rows of teeth! It was reported that he had two rows of teeth and that his skull and body parts were taken, eventually ending up at the Minnesota Historical Society, Finally to be returned to his family in 1971. As for the deformed arm: In 1846 Little Crow was confronted by two of his half-brothers on the future chieftainship of the kaposia band. During the heated discussions one of the brothers shot little crow through both arms and he lived with the reminder of that event throughout the rest of his years. His best friend (koda) Lorenzo Lawrence later killed the brothers (or just one!?!) and married his wife!! (the deceased brother of Little Crow) I don't know if this is Little Crow or not! I actually grabbed this photo from Ebay and whited out the sellers name at the bottom. the seller there had it listed as Little Crow (of the uprising fame).. Wowinape is also known as Thomas Wakeman. (Flandreau S.D.) Thomas Wakeman photo: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/71/ThomasWakeman.png/225px-ThomasWakeman.png
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Post by wolfgang911 on Jun 10, 2009 17:02:10 GMT -5
no way, this man is not little crow, does not look an inch as the proud war leader. this picture is on another thread somewhere in another tribe. I remember seeing it as I thought that he looked to me as Man Afraid of his Horses the old. I'm sure he is somewhere on this board, but hey you have so many pix and who cares, he was not of ,
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Post by wolfgang911 on Jun 10, 2009 17:08:59 GMT -5
historical importance as little crow.
I remember his son wowinapee assisted at the death of his father, while gathering berries shot by some farmers. apparently the shot that killed him came out of his own gun ; what a bummer. If not Little Crow would probably have ended up with SB like Inkpaduta.
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Post by jinlian on Jun 10, 2009 17:23:37 GMT -5
To me, he doesn't look like Wowinape/Thomas Wakeman at all, even if we wouldn't consider the age (man in the photograph is about 40-45) . Besides, I never read of any of Little Crow's children going with him to Washington, while the man in the photograph has the "partial native"attire typical of delegation members.
Also, as Gorkinoff said, the other famous picture of Little Crow has the same label:
"Chetan Wakan Mani. The Sacred Hawk or Tshe-ton Wa-ka-wa Ma-ni. The Hawk that Hunts Walking. Called Ta-o-ya-ta-du-ta. His People are Red. Also called Little Crow, Jr."
both in the Smithsonian Archives and in the University of Pennsylvania Library.
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Post by debstar76 on Nov 19, 2010 15:16:03 GMT -5
Scarlet Night was also known as John Frazier, half breed, he was our GGGGrandfather on my mother's and Grandmother's side of the family.
Deb
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Post by swiftbird659 on Nov 19, 2010 16:44:09 GMT -5
Hi debstar76, Wow! is this the same Scarlet Crow/Raven/Night, a Santee Dakota who dissappeared while on a delegation trip to Washington DC in Feb. 1867 ? and was found murdered two weeks later in Alexandria, Virginia? As there was a reward for his discovery, it was suspected that his capters had killed him in order to claim their $100 in safety? That is a very very sad story.Sorry to hear. (The North American Indians in early photographs by Paula Richardson Fleming and Judith Luskey, p. 32-33),(Diplomats in Buckskins by Herman J. Viola,p.163-164).
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Post by lgarcia on Nov 22, 2010 11:28:11 GMT -5
debstar and swiftbird59: Virgina Drivinghawk-Sneve in her book "Completing the Circle" U. of NE Press 1995 and Herman J. Viola in his book "Diplomats in Buckskin" Smithsonian Institute Press 1981 both have Jack Frazier's photo. Viola thought that the photo was of Scarlet Raven, my wife's great grandfather. LouieG
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Post by debstar76 on Feb 25, 2013 14:33:40 GMT -5
Lgarcia...Yes, Virginia Driving Hawk-Sneve is 1st cousins to my Mother, I've always been shown that this picture was of John Hanyetuduta Fazier..John Frazier was said to be the son of Joseph Jack Frazier...we've been having alot of discussion on this recently with other descendants..
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Post by qually on Jan 1, 2016 19:16:47 GMT -5
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