Little Wound

[kingsleybray]

and thanks kim for the data from LaDeane. Much to think about. If you want to follow up the Crow Feather / One Feather connection, Karen Ducheaneaux Nitzsche at Gettysburg SD is direct descendant and has done extensive research. Tawa Ducheneaux is the librarian at Piya Wiconi outside of Kyle, married into Ducheneauxs. Extensive archive there for OLC. In haste, Kingsley

[kakarns]

Looking back the other day, the families listed with Charging Eagle in the 1877 Census "Cut Off" Sioux - Little Wound were, Lone Feather and Yellow Wolf.
It has often crossed my mind that Lone Feather was/is One Feather. Partially because, I can not find any information at all on the man named Lone Feather.

Also, I have never been able to connect the Sans Arc Crow Feather/One Feather to the One Feather's at Pine Ridge. I'm not saying they weren't, just saying that I have no proof.

kakarns

[kingsleybray]

Mmmm. A word - the people in the so called Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger. They weren't all people who came in with Crazy Horse in 1877. Just the ones listed under "Crazy Horse Sioux" and "Report of Arrivals of Indians from the North".

The others, including "Cut Off Sioux - 'Little Wound' " were people already living at Red Cloud Agency.

[kakarns]

I may stand corrected.

pg. titled; "Cut Off Sioux - Little Wound"

So this document was a Census from 1877 ?
I have made a correction to my earlier post concerning this.

Thanks again for the information Kingsley.

kakarns

[ephriam]

kakarns

The ledger book that you are referring to was published by Tom Buecker and Eli Paul in 1994 as "The Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger." It is actually a ledger book kept by the Army after having taken charge of the Red Cloud Agency during the Great Sioux War of 1876-77. The ledger contains a number of different census or lists. There is a census taken in November 1876 by Lt. Fred. Calhoun (brother of Calhoun killed at Little Bighorn). This is followed by a second census, taken in Feb. 1877 by Lt. Johnson who was the acting Indian agent. There is a list of tickets issued for cow hides from 1877, a list of Indian departures from Red Cloud dated Mar to June 1877, and a report of arrivals of Indians from the north, Feb to April 1877. The ledger also contains a list of names for a beef issue in Dec. 1876 and a list of transfers from Mar. to May 1877. The title of the book is derived from the next section in the ledger, which is a name list of everyone coming in with Crazy Horse in May 1877.

There are several similar Army ledgers like this, including one from Cheyenne River, as well as a series of unbound census by the Army at Standing Rock for this period.

ephriam

[kakarns]

ephriam - Thank you !

I have a copy of the Feb. 16, 1887 Census, pg. 84 "Cut Off Sioux - Little Wound". This is the page that lists Charging Eagle, Yellow Wolf and Lone Feather which, shows a total of 11 people amongst these three families.

Another document I have is, a copy of the 1877 Beef Record pg. 126. This lists these families under Little Wound - Charging Eagle, Kills Plenty Enemy and Man Don't Like Cun*. A total of 31 people amongst these families.

Refer: Mike Magstadt

kakarns

[kakarns]

In my post on; Jan 22, 2015 at 6:18pm

"Here's the families listed on the 1886 Pine Ridge Census pg. 251"

I listed the following info.:

Little Wound - Father - M - 56
Grease - Wife - F - 50
Andrew - Son - M - 17
Jim - " - " - 10
George - " - " - 30
All Dirt - Wife No.2 - F - 47
Emma - Daughter - " - 10


Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/378/little-wound?page=3#ixzz3Pq3yG0nf

Yesterday while doing some research, I ran across this info. that was found in a, "Descendants of Bull Tail" file created by LaDeane Miller.:

[NOTE] LaDeane has a y.o.b. for this Little Chief as, 1823.

Notes for Little Chief (---)
Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger
Pg 30 3-3-4-1 Oglala
Pg 72 4-2-3-0 Wahzahzah Little Chief with him Yankton, Feather Ears, Grease
Pg 122 Red Fly 8 in family-Little Chief 10 in family-Bad Mustang 4 in family-Bad Ree 10 in family
Pg 154 transfers to Spotted Tail Little Chief & The Back April 22nd
1900 census Rosebud pg 185a widowed 2 children living parents b in S Dakota

I am posting this here due to the common name of "Grease". One listed as Little Wound's wife and one listed in the "Notes for Little Chief". I had never seen the name "Grease" included in any American Indian names until, I did the Little Wound research. I don't know if there is any connection between the two but, thought it was worth sharing.

[Additional Comments]:

1.)a.) I am also interested in any information on Woman's Back. I mention this here because, I am starting to think there is a possibility the name Woman's Back may be linked to the "The Back" listed below.:

"Pg 154 transfers to Spotted Tail Little Chief & The Back April 22nd"
(listed above in the Little Chief Notes)

1.b.) LaDeane also lists that Little Chief was married to a woman named: Over The Ridge

While doing a "Google" search the other day on Woman's Back, I read something about a tall ridge (possibly shaped like a woman's back)that, the American Indians used to cross over to get to their destination. In other words from one side of the ridge to the other. Of course, I haven't been able to find that information again.

I would appreciate it if anyone has any knowledge of this, please send me a message.

Thanks,
kakarns

[kakarns]

RE:
[Additional Comments]:

1.)a.) I am also interested in any information on Woman's Back. I mention this here because, I am starting to think there is a possibility the name Woman's Back may be linked to the "The Back" listed below.:

"Pg 154 transfers to Spotted Tail Little Chief & The Back April 22nd"
(listed above in the Little Chief Notes)

1.b.) LaDeane also lists that Little Chief was married to a woman named: Over The Ridge

While doing a "Google" search the other day on Woman's Back, I read something about a tall ridge (possibly shaped like a woman's back)that, the American Indians used to cross over to get to their destination. In other words from one side of the ridge to the other. Of course, I haven't been able to find that information again.

I would appreciate it if anyone has any knowledge of this, please send me a message.


Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/378/little-wound?page=3#ixzz3PqPkzRTt

SHORTLY AFTER I POSTED THE ABOVE STATEMENTS, I FOUND SOME CENSUS ON; Womans Back
I will be posting that info. in the "Shot In The Eye" thread.

thanks,
kakarns

[kakarns]

Please refer here for the "Womans Back" family information:

amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2217/womans-back

I started a new thread instead of combining his information with "Shot In The Eye"

Thank you,
kakarns

[sueb]

Hi,

I just found this site, at the same time that I was given information that Louisa Marshall, daughter of Frank Marshall (maybe married to Annie Little Wound), was descended from Chief Little Wound.

Our family historian passed last year, and I'm "trying" to pick up the reins for her.

I haven't been able to make the connection. I compared the census/rolls from 1886 to 1898, and I only find one/maybe two different daughters. One of the posts here said that Little Wound's daughter married Turning Hawk (not Frank Marshall), so I'm totally confused.

Can anyone head me in the right direction? Thanks

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A wa-kan man is one who is wise. It is one who knows the spirits. It is one who has power with the spirits. It is one who can do strange things. A wa-kan man knows things that the people do not know. The wa-kan-pi have power over everything on earth. They watch mankind all the time. They control everything that mankind does. Anyone with great power is wa-kan because the wa-kan-pi helps them.
-- Little Wound (1829-1901)

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As early as September 12, 1896, Little Wound, American Horse, and Lone Star arrived at Walker’s residence at the agency with Antoine Herman, an interpreter, to instruct him, “We have decided to tell you of the ceremonies of the Oglalas […] We will tell you of the ceremonies as if you were an Oglala who wished to take your part in them. We will not tell you of the parts of them that the shamans do secretly.”
-- Delphine Red Shirt

[columbus4]

Nov 4, 2018 12:54:31 GMT -5 sueb said:

Hi,

I just found this site, at the same time that I was given information that Louisa Marshall, daughter of Frank Marshall (maybe married to Annie Little Wound), was descended from Chief Little Wound.

Our family historian passed last year, and I'm "trying" to pick up the reins for her.

I haven't been able to make the connection. I compared the census/rolls from 1886 to 1898, and I only find one/maybe two different daughters. One of the posts here said that Little Wound's daughter married Turning Hawk (not Frank Marshall), so I'm totally confused.

Can anyone head me in the right direction? Thanks

[columbus4]

I am new to this site as well, but have been reading these postings for genealogy reasons. My stepdaughter is a descendant of several names listed on American-Tribes.com. She is from the Yellow Bird Steele family, and a direct descendant of Little Bat Garnier, Chief Little Wound, Chief Red Shirt, and Cheyenne Woman who was married to John Yellow Bird Steele (her 2nd husband). Regarding your post about Louisa Marshall, daughter of Frank Marshall, I don't know about Louisa, but Frank Marshall was married to Annie Little Wound, daughter of Chief Little Wound. Chief Little Wound and Annie apparently had a son named Joseph Marshall, born in 1852, and he married an Elizabeth Morrison. I don't have a husband for Elizabeth, but she had a daughter named Edith (Jennie) Marshall (1891-1986), and Edith had a daughter named Sarah Sallie Aldyth Marshall (which was my stepdaughter's great grandmother.). Sarah was first married to a Mr. Little Bull, and then her 2nd spouse was Charles Cuny Yellow Bird Steele. His father was David Yellow Bird Steele and his mother was Mary Redshirt, daughter of Chief Red Shirt. It seems a lot of these families were interconnected. I have my stepdaughter's family tree records that were given to my stepdaughter's mother, Jo Ann Garnier, (she's passed away), from her uncle Charles Yellow Bird Steele. If any of this sounds correct or incorrect, I would like to know or update things, but the tree was done by Yellow Bird Steele.

Nina Welsh
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[columbus4]

Nov 8, 2019 17:25:23 GMT -5 columbus4 said:

I am new to this site as well, but have been reading these postings for genealogy reasons. My stepdaughter is a descendant of several names listed on American-Tribes.com. She is from the Yellow Bird Steele family, and a direct descendant of Little Bat Garnier, Chief Little Wound, Chief Red Shirt, and Cheyenne Woman who was married to John Yellow Bird Steele (her 2nd husband). Regarding your post about Louisa Marshall, daughter of Frank Marshall, I don't know about Louisa, but Frank Marshall was married to Annie Little Wound, daughter of Chief Little Wound. Chief Little Wound and Annie apparently had a son named Joseph Marshall, born in 1852, and he married an Elizabeth Morrison. I don't have a husband for Elizabeth, but she had a daughter named Edith (Jennie) Marshall (1891-1986), and Edith had a daughter named Sarah Sallie Aldyth Marshall (which was my stepdaughter's great grandmother.). Sarah was first married to a Mr. Little Bull, and then her 2nd spouse was Charles Cuny Yellow Bird Steele. His father was David Yellow Bird Steele and his mother was Mary Redshirt, daughter of Chief Red Shirt. It seems a lot of these families were interconnected. I have my stepdaughter's family tree records that were given to my stepdaughter's mother, Jo Ann Garnier, (she's passed away), from her uncle Charles Yellow Bird Steele. If any of this sounds correct or incorrect, I would like to know or update things, but the tree was done by Yellow Bird Steele.

Nina Welsh
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