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Post by dbuck on Apr 15, 2024 10:51:30 GMT -5
Hello, I’m trying to determine if these two photos are of the same Sioux Chief High Bear. I would like to know more about photo #2 of the Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Heyn and Matzen in 1900. Is this the same High Bear born in 1843 that Meany interviewed in this post? amertribes.proboards.com/post/16568/quote/379 . And is this the same High Bear that traveled with Buffalo Bill? There was a High Bear who was severely injured in a train wreck on his way to join the Buffalo Bill show, but I don't know if he is the same one.
The story behind these two photos:
Photo #1: The Trans-Mississippi and International Exposition World's Fair was held in Omaha, Nebraska from June 1 to October 1898. The Indian Congress with more than 500 Indian delegates from over thirty-five different tribes also took place in conjunction with the expo. The events included "living exhibitions," with mock Indian villages and demonstrations of dances, daily activities, and sham battles. The official photographer of the U.S. Indian Congress was Frank A. Rinehart and Adolph F. Muhr who took the first photo of High Bear.
Photo # 2 (possibly). The following year the Greater America Exposition opened on the same fair grounds from July-October 1899 and Heyn and Matzen were the official photographers. The second photo of High Bear by Heyn and Matzen was registered with the US copyright in 1900 and is in the Library of Congress.
#1. Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Rinehart at the Indian Congress 1898
#2. Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Heyn and Matzen 1900
So, are both of these High Bears the same person? I think they probably are. Their facial features look the same even though they’re from different angles. And what would the chances be that there would be 2 Sioux Chief High Bears, about the same age, photographed in the same area? I'd love to find out more about him.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 15, 2024 17:47:28 GMT -5
Hello dbuck,
and welcome to our forum. They were indeed many High Bears, and they are easy to mix up.
Your picture #1 shows a man from Standing Rock, as far as I know he was a Yanktonai.
#2 is a portrait of an Oyukpe Oglala man called High Bear.
Meany interviewed on the page you linked a Sicangu/Brule Lakota from Rosebud.
All three were important men in their tribes.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 16, 2024 5:30:55 GMT -5
I corrected my post above from yesterday. After reading several newspaper accounts of 1904, I think it is likely that the Oglala High Bear was the one with the contingent from Pine Ridge that was about to go on tour with Buffalo Bill to Europe when the train accident happened.
Newspaper accounts differ about High Bear been injured. It seems more likely that his wife was hurt. High Bear identified the dead and took care of those who were in hospital.
However, it seems after his stay in Chicago he went home. He is not in any photograph of the 1904 tour I know of.
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Post by cinye78 on Apr 16, 2024 16:45:22 GMT -5
Hello, I’m trying to determine if these two photos are of the same Sioux Chief High Bear. I would like to know more about photo #2 of the Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Heyn and Matzen in 1900. Is this the same High Bear born in 1843 that Meany interviewed in this post? amertribes.proboards.com/post/16568/quote/379 . And is this the same High Bear that traveled with Buffalo Bill? There was a High Bear who was severely injured in a train wreck on his way to join the Buffalo Bill show, but I don't know if he is the same one.
The story behind these two photos:
Photo #1: The Trans-Mississippi and International Exposition World's Fair was held in Omaha, Nebraska from June 1 to October 1898. The Indian Congress with more than 500 Indian delegates from over thirty-five different tribes also took place in conjunction with the expo. The events included "living exhibitions," with mock Indian villages and demonstrations of dances, daily activities, and sham battles. The official photographer of the U.S. Indian Congress was Frank A. Rinehart and Adolph F. Muhr who took the first photo of High Bear.
Photo # 2 (possibly). The following year the Greater America Exposition opened on the same fair grounds from July-October 1899 and Heyn and Matzen were the official photographers. The second photo of High Bear by Heyn and Matzen was registered with the US copyright in 1900 and is in the Library of Congress.
#1. Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Rinehart at the Indian Congress 1898
#2. Sioux Chief High Bear photo by Heyn and Matzen 1900
So, are both of these High Bears the same person? I think they probably are. Their facial features look the same even though they’re from different angles. And what would the chances be that there would be 2 Sioux Chief High Bears, about the same age, photographed in the same area? I'd love to find out more about him.
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Post by cinye78 on Apr 16, 2024 16:49:21 GMT -5
It is easy to see that the man with the weasel tail headdress (war Bonnet) is Yanktonai.
Also by his shirt traded or gifted from the Hidatsa
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Post by gregor on Apr 22, 2024 4:55:05 GMT -5
It is easy to see that the man with the weasel tail headdress (war Bonnet) is Yanktonai. Also by his shirt traded or gifted from the Hidatsa Hmmm, the most sources have High Bear (Mato Wakantuya) as Hunkpapa Lakota. We must also take into account that the clothing and feather bonnet may have been the property of the photographer. Do we have more on this man?
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 22, 2024 7:57:44 GMT -5
Josephine Waggoner listed High Bear as a chief in the Takini band of Upper Yanktonai. He also can be found in Standing Rock ration lists and censuses as a Yanktonai.
In the 'Sitting Bull Surrender Census' of 1881 (edited by Ephriam Dickson) he is listed under 'Missing Families' on page 235.
High Bear was a delegate to Washington in 1888.
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Post by dbuck on Apr 23, 2024 17:19:06 GMT -5
I corrected my post above from yesterday. After reading several newspaper accounts of 1904, I think it is likely that the Oglala High Bear was the one with the contingent from Pine Ridge that was about to go on tour with Buffalo Bill to Europe when the train accident happened. Newspaper accounts differ about High Bear been injured. It seems more likely that his wife was hurt. High Bear identified the dead and took care of those who were in hospital. However, it seems after his stay in Chicago he went home. He is not in any photograph of the 1904 tour I know of. Thank you so much for this. I’m glad to hear you think picture #2 is the Oglala High Bear from Pine Ridge as I was also thinking that he was that High Bear. The reason being that the photo #2 is from the Library of Congress and is part of the collection by Heyn and Madsen. We know they were commissioned to do the studio portraits in Omaha at the Greater American Expo and most of the Indians were from nearby Pine Ridge.
I just found a very detailed report of the injuries suffered in the train wreck and how the railroad tried to downplay it. It explains both Mrs. and Mrs High Bear's injuries. It says she had more severe injuries but he was also hurt pretty badly. The account of their injuries is on pages 238-239 here: escholarship.org/uc/item/0tn2g95c Do you know if he was also one of the delegates to the 1898 Indian Congress? Or was that just the High Bear in photo #1? |
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Post by dbuck on Apr 23, 2024 17:23:49 GMT -5
It is easy to see that the man with the weasel tail headdress (war Bonnet) is Yanktonai. Also by his shirt traded or gifted from the Hidatsa Thank you. Are you referring to photo #1? That’s interesting about the shirt. We wondered if some of the clothing for these studio portraits were provided by the photographer, |
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Post by dbuck on Apr 23, 2024 17:25:27 GMT -5
It is easy to see that the man with the weasel tail headdress (war Bonnet) is Yanktonai. Also by his shirt traded or gifted from the Hidatsa Hmmm, the most sources have High Bear (Mato Wakantuya) as Hunkpapa Lakota. We must also take into account that the clothing and feather bonnet may have been the property of the photographer. Do we have more on this man?
Yes, we wondered about that also. |
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Post by gregor on Apr 26, 2024 7:55:23 GMT -5
Josephine Waggoner listed High Bear as a chief in the Takini band of Upper Yanktonai. He also can be found in Standing Rock ration lists and censuses as a Yanktonai. In the 'Sitting Bull Surrender Census' of 1881 (edited by Ephriam Dickson) he is listed under 'Missing Families' on page 235. High Bear was a delegate to Washington in 1888. Yes, you are right - I have to correct myself. High Bear / Mato Wakantuya can be found in a Ration List for 28 July - 10 August 1885. He is No. 112 among the Upper Yanctonais and had 10 family members. |
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