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Post by salishway on Jun 12, 2023 12:32:12 GMT -5
Can anyone help identify where and when this could have been made? Thank you, mike
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Post by Californian on Jun 12, 2023 14:19:25 GMT -5
before offering a response I consulted with a specialist friend - this appears to be a recycled/repurposed piece of Transmontane (i.e. Crow-stich) beadwork, seemingly upside down, turned into an early 20th century Great Lakes bag front, as it seems. One can see that type of leather a lot before the 1930‘s
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Post by salishway on Jun 12, 2023 17:54:25 GMT -5
Thank you California Expert for the info! How old do you think the original beadwork is? I thought it was upside down as well as it looked like a floral design.
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Post by Californian on Jun 12, 2023 18:04:05 GMT -5
the age of the panel can be roughly determined by the type of material, i.e. commercially tanned or native tanned leather, also the type of beads, i.e. do the red ones have a white core or are they solid red and lastly the medium with which the beads were sewn onto the leather, i.e. sinew or cotton thread. Just visually and by "feel" I would say around 1880's - if the red beads have a solid color then its more 1890's/1900's, if cotton thread instead of sinew, then also early reservation period to perhaps 1900 or thereabouts. After that the floral designs often got more realistic.
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Post by salishway on Jun 12, 2023 21:43:22 GMT -5
Thank you! Yes - solid red and sinew -
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Post by salishway on Jun 12, 2023 21:49:36 GMT -5
Sorry - I meant not solid red - they have white core.
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Post by Californian on Jun 12, 2023 22:15:32 GMT -5
I would date the panel in that case (panel only) to about 1880's
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