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Post by Dietmar on Jan 20, 2017 10:10:29 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Jan 20, 2017 12:14:33 GMT -5
Thanks, both of you. At first glance, I thought he looked a lot older than he is in the Morrow photos. Now, I'm not sure. He may even have the same leggings!
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Post by allenc on Jan 21, 2017 10:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by ladybug on Mar 11, 2017 14:47:27 GMT -5
Forgive me if I am doing this wrong. Never been in forum. The above photo of an Indian on a horse in a creek - is not a Trager photo. It is a Clarence Grant Morledge photo. His monogram is in the lower right hand corner. I am Clarence's great niece.
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 11, 2017 17:33:23 GMT -5
Thank you very much ladybug, and welcome to this forum. I guess you mean this Morledge photo:
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Post by grahamew on Mar 27, 2017 12:18:30 GMT -5
Forgive me if I am doing this wrong. Never been in forum. The above photo of an Indian on a horse in a creek - is not a Trager photo. It is a Clarence Grant Morledge photo. His monogram is in the lower right hand corner. I am Clarence's great niece. Thanks. Here are some images from Ebay and elsewhere: I think all four were taken on Rosebud. The last one was labelled Two Strike, though it doesn't seem to be. I'm guessing they were taken early 1900s. Cheyennes(?) by Benjamin Waite, 1907 Lakota man - scout? Yellow Horse, Rain Waiter and The Butcher (taken at Rosebud) Wild West Show at Niagara Lakota man from Pine Ridge (1899?) Lakota who took part in Massacre Canyon against the Pawnee (photographed in 1923) Pawnee Wild West Show participants?? Chippewa man These two were labelled 'Sioux' but are probably... Winnebago? Potawatomie? Lakota group, 1919, by Harmon Percy Marble
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 29, 2017 10:17:03 GMT -5
Thanks Grahame! The Cheyenne on horseback in the Waite photo could be Bull Bear, a son of the famous Dog Soldier chief. I have seen this man below identified as Standing Bear, which would be Stephen Standing Bear from Pine Ridge: This is what I´ve read, but I can´t say for sure. He also resembles Joe High Eagle, but that may be just an impression.
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 29, 2017 10:28:53 GMT -5
Regarding the 1923 Massacre Canyon picture:
There has to be a confusion of the order the names were listed in.
Flying Hawk is clearly the man standing third from left (with war-bonnet), not 6th.
Spotted Weasel stands indeed left to Williamson (as he is listed on the postcard). But next are two names, but only one man left in the photo (unless American Eagle is the boy on far right).
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Post by grahamew on May 30, 2017 13:09:13 GMT -5
Here are a few more: Possibly Jicarilla Apache (1860s?) Taken in Santa Fe: the governor and key members of the local Pueblo tribe? (1860s) Crow funeral lodge (early 80s?). Feel free to remove this. Comanche? I'm guessing this is fairly late, judging by the striped trousers under the blanket Winnebago - Hamilton and Hoyt? Winnebago? Winnebago - Hamilton and Hoyt? Pawnee men and sheriff Heck Thomas - sometime after the tribe moved to Oklahoma Living it up with Buffalo Bill Black Horse and Eagle Bird, Oglala Unidentified I'm assuming all the Pawnee above are Jackson photos... or by Eaton? Oglala Pawnee group Iron Horse, Hunkpapa. date given for this was 1952. It's clearly not. Same man photographed by Gardner in 1872. Rain in the Face's brother? Unidentified Mad Wolf, Southern Cheyenne Blackfoot (Blood) Winnebago, 1910 Curly Bear, Blackfoot (Piegan) Prairie Indian family by A. M. Hartung Cree (and Metis?), Maple Creek, 1884 Cree, 1884 Little Fox, Cree
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Post by kingsleybray on May 31, 2017 3:35:55 GMT -5
Iron Horse in the selection above bears an amazing resemblance to Joseph White Bull (Miniconjou).
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Post by grahamew on May 31, 2017 12:20:19 GMT -5
I thought he looked like an older version of Iron Horse: But now I'm not sure...
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Post by kingsleybray on May 31, 2017 14:27:55 GMT -5
the 1872 Gardner subject was not Iron Horse but Iron Horn -- a brother or cousin of Rain in the Face as you observed, grahame.
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Post by kingsleybray on May 31, 2017 14:28:55 GMT -5
there are descendants of Iron Horn and brothers at Little Eagle today -- ringers for Iron Horn!
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Post by grahamew on Jun 1, 2017 3:59:11 GMT -5
the 1872 Gardner subject was not Iron Horse but Iron Horn -- a brother or cousin of Rain in the Face as you observed, grahame. Sugar! I've long laboured under the delusion that it was Iron Horse. I've even same him labelled as such. "I'll get me coat..."
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 2, 2017 9:44:51 GMT -5
The Oglala above is White Man Bear, photographed by Heyn in Omaha, 1899.
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