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Post by persephone on Jan 4, 2022 1:43:06 GMT -5
Greetings from the Uk
I am interested in discovering any information about Black Crow, of the Arapaho ..,his history, his life and perhaps his descendants.
I have researched and found very little except that he was misidentified in a well known photograph (dated 1898) as Scabby Bull. This was later corrected by Scabby Bull’s descendants. (I’m not sure how to upload this photo )
I have also discovered Black Crow may have been known as Houunahaah or Crow Shier but again I feel he may have been misidentified for some reason. Black Crow would appear to have been part of the Southern Arapaho
In many Internet photos, Black Crow is wearing a Benjamin Harrison Peace medal that was awarded in November 1890 but I have not been able to find any record that it was personally awarded to him, instead that it perhaps belonged to Scabby Bull who was officially listed. However I have not seen Scabby Bull wearing this medal. Was this part of the misidentification?
Does anyone have any information that they would like to share about Black Crow please?
Many thanks in advance
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 4, 2022 7:34:18 GMT -5
Hi persephone, just to be sure, you mean this Black Crow, who was a delegate to Washington in 1872?: Black Crow, Arapaho by Alexander Gardner, 1872
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 4, 2022 9:23:37 GMT -5
I think much of the confusion comes from the identifications of this picture at the Smithsonian Institute: sova.si.edu/details/NAA.PhotoLot.176#ref320They label the picture "Group Portrait of Black Crow, Nawat, and Scabby Bull". They also attach both names to the single portraits of the individuals, for example "Portrait (Front) of Scabby Bull or Black Crow", seemingly unsure who is who in the group picture. sova.si.edu/details/NAA.PhotoLot.176#ref5755In my opinion Scabby Bull is clearly the man standing at left. In the center sits (the younger) Left Hand, while Black Crow must be the man at right. This Black Crow is not the same man as in the 1872 Gardner photo. Perhaps he is a younger relative, but that´s speculative. Not much is known about both Black Crows. The elder one probably was a band leader in the 1870s and went to Washington in 1872. He apparently signed treaties for the Southern Arapahos at least until 1883. The younger Black Crow visited Carlisle Indian School and Washington in 1898. For comparison: Scabby Bull, Arapaho
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Post by persephone on Jan 4, 2022 11:55:27 GMT -5
Hi Deitmar Thankyou for your very quick response. The Man I always thought may have been Black Crow was this gentleman who would appear to be the man on the left of the Smithsonian picture www.firstpeople.us/photographs/Black-Crow-Arapaho-1898.htmlA relative of Scabby Bull corrects the site and identifies the photo as Black Crow so that confused me further. I was reluctant to link the photo due to copyright but in my research there is much confusion so I apologise. Your explanation however would fit because Black Crow not identified as being a recipient of the Peace Medal. And I imagine that the signing of treaties was the reason for this award. I have also had a look (skimmed) some of the census records for the Southern Arapaho and only found Scabby Bull registered. A Black Crow was registered as a young boy under 10 I was further thrown off the trail by this Smithsonian picture and this gentleman would appear to be the same man but we are introduced to the name Houunahaah www.pinterest.ch/pin/855754366667393199/Thankyou for the Information. I am currently in Oklahoma so will be visiting the research centre there. I’m not sure where to start but this may be a good lead.
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