Warrior Society Dispersion Among Bands and Tiyoshpaye
Sept 22, 2018 15:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by Mike on Sept 22, 2018 15:27:37 GMT -5
I'm trying to get a better understanding how the various warrior societies camped during the winter and in times of peace, or when no hunts, Sun Dances or raids were taking place.
How (aside from the Dog Soldiers) among the traditional bands, would the Cante Tinza for example, be dispersed among the northern bands in winter and when no major activities were being undertaken? I am assuming some bands would have heavy membership of a certain society and others may have few or no members at all, and how did this affect duties and akicita roles?
To quote (partially) from Kingsley Bray in another thread, to use as an example for my questions below:
If anyone could help me form an accurate picture of this dynamic worked I'd be very grateful.
I. In the Bad Face band, if the Cante Tinza were the active akicita I assume the society would have its main lodge set up and its members would camp near it? The men would not sleep in the lodge with their families, but with the society, correct? Or would they live in their family lodge until a dance, council or other need arise?
II. How would the other societies who were not the current akicita live? Would the Tokala men be dispersed among the tiyoshpaye within their families lodges?
Were there lodges where society men slept together besides the main society lodge?
III. For as many quotes I have come across about the Lakota and Northern Cheyenne making 'permanent winter villages', I have come across just as many stating they had to 'move often during winter' to find fresh grass and bark for the ponies, which is the 'more correct' statement?
IV. How many times would a band move in winter and how small of an encampment would be common? Would they separate by tiyoshpaye or just by band?
V. If Black Twin and He Dog were to be encamped alone for a time in the winter with their combined 30 lodges, would these two tiyoshpaye appoint their own joint akicita or would the Oglala council have appointed one for all the bands?
VI. I know the Northern Cheyenne Totoimana often camped alone, and the Omisis proper and the Northern Suhtai often camped together, who were the traditional village partners among the Lakota?
VII. Which bands of the Oglala most often camped/interacted with the Northern Cheyenne and who were they?
VIII. I am aware (via George Bent) how the Lakota and Cheyenne shared duties with their warrior societies as during the great Platter Bridge raid, was this common even among smaller Lakota and Northern Cheyenne band clusters during other times?
P.S. Kingsley Bray, I am really enjoying Crazy Horse: A Lakota Life. When I was at the Center of the West store in Cody, I unashamedly pulled a copy of your book over to hide the atrocity that is 'The Heart of Everything That Is'
How (aside from the Dog Soldiers) among the traditional bands, would the Cante Tinza for example, be dispersed among the northern bands in winter and when no major activities were being undertaken? I am assuming some bands would have heavy membership of a certain society and others may have few or no members at all, and how did this affect duties and akicita roles?
To quote (partially) from Kingsley Bray in another thread, to use as an example for my questions below:
As a tribal baseline during winter 1867-68, I propose 607 lodges, equivalent at this timeframe to approximately 3642 people.
IN THE NORTH: 340 lodges
NEAR FORT LARAMIE: 127 lodges
AT NORTH PLATTE (UPPER PLATTE AGENCY): 20 lodges
IN THE SOUTH: 120 lodges.
Let's turn to the people IN THE NORTH. The bands at this timeframe look to break down like this.
Oyuhpe 100 lodges
Bad Face 80 lodges
Hunkpatila 70 lodges
True Oglala 50 lodges
Spleen 40 lodges
Total: 340 lodges
Bad Face
Red Cloud 10 lodges
Brave Bear 10 lodges
Trunk/White Hawk 10 lodges
Black Twin 20 lodges
He Dog 10 lodges
Milk 5 lodges
Chasing Cat (Shikshichela) 15 lodges
IN THE NORTH: 340 lodges
NEAR FORT LARAMIE: 127 lodges
AT NORTH PLATTE (UPPER PLATTE AGENCY): 20 lodges
IN THE SOUTH: 120 lodges.
Let's turn to the people IN THE NORTH. The bands at this timeframe look to break down like this.
Oyuhpe 100 lodges
Bad Face 80 lodges
Hunkpatila 70 lodges
True Oglala 50 lodges
Spleen 40 lodges
Total: 340 lodges
Bad Face
Red Cloud 10 lodges
Brave Bear 10 lodges
Trunk/White Hawk 10 lodges
Black Twin 20 lodges
He Dog 10 lodges
Milk 5 lodges
Chasing Cat (Shikshichela) 15 lodges
I. In the Bad Face band, if the Cante Tinza were the active akicita I assume the society would have its main lodge set up and its members would camp near it? The men would not sleep in the lodge with their families, but with the society, correct? Or would they live in their family lodge until a dance, council or other need arise?
II. How would the other societies who were not the current akicita live? Would the Tokala men be dispersed among the tiyoshpaye within their families lodges?
Were there lodges where society men slept together besides the main society lodge?
III. For as many quotes I have come across about the Lakota and Northern Cheyenne making 'permanent winter villages', I have come across just as many stating they had to 'move often during winter' to find fresh grass and bark for the ponies, which is the 'more correct' statement?
IV. How many times would a band move in winter and how small of an encampment would be common? Would they separate by tiyoshpaye or just by band?
V. If Black Twin and He Dog were to be encamped alone for a time in the winter with their combined 30 lodges, would these two tiyoshpaye appoint their own joint akicita or would the Oglala council have appointed one for all the bands?
VI. I know the Northern Cheyenne Totoimana often camped alone, and the Omisis proper and the Northern Suhtai often camped together, who were the traditional village partners among the Lakota?
VII. Which bands of the Oglala most often camped/interacted with the Northern Cheyenne and who were they?
VIII. I am aware (via George Bent) how the Lakota and Cheyenne shared duties with their warrior societies as during the great Platter Bridge raid, was this common even among smaller Lakota and Northern Cheyenne band clusters during other times?
P.S. Kingsley Bray, I am really enjoying Crazy Horse: A Lakota Life. When I was at the Center of the West store in Cody, I unashamedly pulled a copy of your book over to hide the atrocity that is 'The Heart of Everything That Is'