jikou
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Post by jikou on May 27, 2016 3:51:16 GMT -5
Last record where Conejeros (Conexeros) tribe is mentioned is by Ulibarri, dated 1706, located to Taos Valey. Togehter with information that Conejeros were defeated east of present New Mexico by French an Pawnee forces 1696 it indicates move to the west. And from now on the Conejero track is lost. But .. in the second half of the 18. century OConnor reports:"Los Apaches que consternan las Provincias de Sonora, y Nueva Vizcaya son conocidos por los nombres Chiricagui, Gilenos, Mimbrenos, Mescaleros, Faraones, Rancherías de Pascual, y el Ligero, la de Alonso, la de el Capitán Vigotes, y el Natagé. Los tres primeros en Lengua Apache se llaman Sigilande, Senozende, Chiguende, y las restantes Zetosende, Selcotisanende, Culcahende, Cachuginde , Yncagende, Sigilande, y Zetozende."
My poor knowledge of some apachean words together with way Spanish transformed Indian words encourages me to guess that Cachuginde = Cawchodine = Rabbit People = Conejeros (spanish).
At least might be. - Not mentioning that Cawchodine is athapascan tribe in Canada.
Ressurection of very nomadic group ( reported in the middle of 17. century in Wyoming) of Apaches somewhere near La junta de los Rios on present Concho river issue to Rio Grande ?
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Post by chicheman on Jun 3, 2016 11:14:14 GMT -5
hello jikou,
that is an interesting theme.
As far as concerning the Conejeros, I was finding some mention in this book, - I fought a good fight: A History of the Lipan - Apaches, by Sherry Robinson, Univ. of North Texas ; June 2013. One of her sources, beside the Spanish (Mexican) Archives etc., is the study of Anthropologist Karl H. Schlesier about the Plains Apache, published in a paper of the Plains Anthropologist´. Here Prof. Schlesier came to the conclusion, that the Conejeros have been one of the ancestor Groups of the Lipan Apaches. Interesting linguistic conclusion you did, based on Apache and Spanish words, so sounds like the Translation can be -Rabbit People- for that band . Perhaps some of our Nde members of this Forum may have comments, concerning the linguistic hint ? Much appreciated.
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