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Post by grahamew on Feb 25, 2009 2:31:50 GMT -5
Here's Charles Schreyvogel's undated study sletch of Rain in the Face.
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Post by jinlian on Jun 3, 2009 5:02:08 GMT -5
Currently on sale at Cowan's : Mrs Rain-in-The-Face (?)
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Post by ladonna on Mar 2, 2010 15:19:55 GMT -5
He only had the two children who lived to adulthood. he has recorded that he lost a wife and children at little Big Horn but people are unsure, his wife of bernard and Angel died so the children were raised with other family. Rain -in-the-Face was unlucky with wives
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Post by ladonna on Mar 12, 2010 17:25:00 GMT -5
Here ya go it is still uncomplete and needs more work.
Mato Ite (Bear Face) Mato Ite: born: abt 1800 Spouse: Waste Winyan His sons were Walutawakinyan -Red Thunder - born about 1827 Hemaza -Iron Horn - born about 1829
Mato Ite -Bear Face II - born about 1830 Itonagaju -Rain in the Face - born about 1836 Shave Head - born 1840 Mato Cigala -Little Bear - born about 1842 There were six full-brothers, sons of the Hunkpapa Bear Face I (Mato Ite). The latter was a signatory as a warrior to the 1825 Hunkpapa treaty with the Atkinson-O'Fallon Commission. He must have been born about 1800. The family was a leading tiwahe within the Che-okhba or Droopy thingy band. The band occupied the place in the Hunkpapa camp-circle next to the Sore-Backs band, which suggests they may have been sister bands, one budded off the other.
(1) Wakiyan Luta-Red Thunder born 1827
1st Spouse: Wamblinsma
2nd Spouse: Nape Maza Win-Iron hand born 1827
Children 1. James Red Thunder Born 1856 died 11-11-1906 2. Mato Sapa- Black Bear: born 1851 3. Daughter: Winyanwaste born 1868
James Red Thunder Born 1856 Spouse: Josephine Red Day 1855 Spouse: Bring her-Irene born 1853
Children Son: James Red Thunder born Step-Son: Lyon Afraid of Nothing born 1902
Winyanwaste born 1868
Spouse: Sunka-Louis Dog Sr. Born 1864
Children: 1. Daughter: Ptesanwin- Agnes Rose Dog Born 1889 died 1944 2. Daughter: Winicala-Girl born 1889 3. Son: Tatanka Wastela- Pretty Bull born 1882 4. Son Mato-Bear born 1881 5. Daughter: Annie Dog born 1901 6. Son: Bede Dog 7. Son: Moses Dog 8. Son: Joseph Dog
Annie Dog born 1901
Spouse: Joseph Thunder Shield born 1880 1st Spouse: Catherine Born 1875 Children 1. Daughter Elizabeth Thunder Shield born 1875 2. Son: Eugene Shoot Twice born 1894 3. Daughter: Annie Thunder Shield born 1903 4. Son: Ambrose Thunder shield born 1905
Children 1. Daughter: Rebecca Thunder Shield born1918 2. Son: Vince Thunder Shield born 1921 3. Son: Bede Thunder Shield born 1923 4. Daughter Luella Thunder Shield born 1926 5. Daughter: Olive Thunder Shield
Agnes Rose Dog Born 1889 died 1944
1st Spouse: Jerome Harris Red Cloud 2nd Spouse: George Rouillard 3rd Spouse: Carl Sneve 4th Spouse: John/Joesph Turdell Sr. Children:
1. Son: Clifford Harris 1905-1905 2. Son: William Harris 1906-1928 3. Daughter: Alice Harris Red Cloud Born 1908-1992 4. Daughter: Mary Harris Red Cloud Crazy Bear Born 1909-1977 5. Son: Jerome Harris Born 1911-1912 6. Son: Thomas Harris Born 1913-1914 7. Daughter: Lydia Harris Red Cloud Lucero Born 1915-1978 8. Son: Levi Turdell born 1919 -1940
Alice Harris Red Cloud
1st Spouse: William White 2nd Spouse: Owen Johnson 3rd Spouse: Romie Barnes 4th Spouse: James Fast Wolfe Randall Lovejoy 5th Spouse: Robert West
Children:
1. Daughter: Dorothy Nadine White-father William White 2. Son: Robert Barne’s-Romie Barnes 3. Son: James Lovejoy 4. Daughter: Valerie Lovejoy 5. Daughter: Marlene Lovejoy 6. Son: Gerald Lovejoy
Valerie Lovejoy Spouse: Frank Brave Bull
Children:
1. Daughter: LaDonna Brave Bull Allard born 1956-me 2. Son: Claude Brave Bull born 1957 died 1981 3. Daughter: Valmarie Brave Bull born 1959 4. Daughter: Marty Jo Brave Bull born 1960 5. Son: Randal Frank Brave Bull born 1961 6. Son: Curtis Lee Brave Bull born 1963
Black Bear Sioux, he saw Custer's Column at the divide. He was still alive in 1929, at Standing Rock Black Bear: born 1851 Spouse: Tunkan Lutawin- Red Boulder born 1857 Children: Son; Mato Wahancanka-Bear Shield born 1879 Son: Pte San-Grey Cow-John Black Bear born 1884 Son: Moses Black Bear born 1893 This Iron Horn was Hunkpapa and member of the 1872 delegation to Washington (photographed by A. Gardner, copied from Smithsonian SIRIS). Iron Horn came to Ft Sully October 1865 to attend treaty talks as a Hunkpapa soldier. According to his own statement he was made a chief this same year - 1865. He signed the 1868 treaty at Ft Rice and was among the first Hunkpapas to settle at Grand River Agency - hence his role in the 1872 delegation and the Gardner portrait above. His brothers Bear Face and Red Thunder were also agency leaders by 1876, in 1879 that his other 'brothers', naming Rain in the Face, Little Bear, and Cross Bear, were in Canada with Sitting Bull's people.
(2) Iron Horn Hemaza- Martin Iron Horn born 1832
1st Spouse: Oan Otawin-Many Tricks born 1821 2nd Spouse: skuya 1848
Children: 1. Son: Taken Alive born 1863 2. Son: Pte San Iyatoka born 1863 3. Son: Hoke kte- Kill Assiniboine born 1867 4. Son: Sunkakanyanks-Riding Horses born 1874 5. Daughter: Agleska-Lizzard born 1875 6. Daughter: Walutayuhawin born 1886
Niyake Yuza-Taken Alive born 1863 Spouse: Cangboku-Returns with Wood born 1866 Children
Son: Hiyuiciya-Get Down born 1882 Daughter-Iciga born 1884
(3) Bear Face II
Mato Ite- Leo Bear Face II: born abt. 1830 died 1-20-1915
Spouse: Oyegiwin-Brown Tracks born 1847
Children: A. Son: Sunkyanajica- Samuel Bear Face Born 1863 B. Daughter: Louisa Bear Face born 1863 C. Daughter: Rosa Bear Face (Topala)- born 1865 died 1891 D. Vital Bear Face born 1874 E. Son: Canyanysin - John Bear Face born 1873 F. Son: Jerome Bear Face born 1889
(A) Sunkyanajica- Samuel Bear Face Born 1862 Spouse: Tasina –Her Robes Agnes Bear Face born 1862
Children 1. Son: Felix Bear Face Born 1882 2. Daughter: Rosa Bear Face born 1893 3. Daughter Rose Bear Face Born 1900 died 1901
(B) Louisa Bear Face born 1863 Spouse: Four Bear
Children 1. Daughter: Flora Four Bear Born 1883 2. Daughter: Martha Four Bear Born 1885 3. Son: Armstrong Four Bear Born 1887
Spouse: Thomas Sand born 1878 Spouse: Eagle Boy Spouse: Joseph Garter Born 1858
(C) Rosa Bear Face -First school Teacher of Sitting Bull Camp Bear Face, Rosa (Topola=Fourth Born Daughter): Sioux (Standing Rock, ND). Daughter of Chief Bear Face. At Hampton October 1881-May 1884; October 1887-April 1888. Missionary and camp school teacher. Died in 1891.
(D) Vital Bear Face born 1874 Spouse: Otilia Bear face
Children: Christian Bear Face: John Bear Face: Annie Bear Face: Odelia Bear Face: Todelo Bear Face:
Vital Bear Face born 1874 2nd Spouse: Jean Rough Surface born 1894
Children William Bear face born 1927 Doraphine Bear Face
Otilia Bear Face 2nd Spouse: James Bear Shield
(4) Ite Omagaju-Rain-in-the-Face born 1845 Died 9-14-1905
Rain-in-the-Face, Itonagaju Circa 1845, Hunkpapa Sioux he fought in the Little Big Horn Battle in the valley fight. Some say he killed Tom Custer. He died September 14, 1905, Standing Rock, N.D. 1873 - Rain In The Face Rain-in-Face killed Dr. Honzinger and others accompanying him for trespassing on the land of the Lakotas. 1874 - Rain In The Face arrested, Rain-in-the-Face, Hunkpapa, was arrested for killing two civilians under clouded circumstances on Sioux treaty lands. A military detachment under the command of Captain George Yates arrested a Sioux warrior, Rain-in-the-Face, at Standing Rock Agency. They claim that Rain In the Face had murdered two civilians, Dr. Honzinger and Mr. Baliran, over a year before. Rain in the Face escapes 1875 - In addition to these problems, the invasion of the Black Hills by the military, and later the gold miners, caused the Sioux to remain restless throughout the winter. Another source of tension was the escape of Rain-in-the-Face from Fort Lincoln
Rain in The Face born born 1835 Died 9-14-1905
Spouse: Natewin-Head born 1844
Children:
Daughter: Apesawin- Agatha born 1871 1st. Spouse: Isidore Bone born 1868 Children Daughter: Jennie Bone born 1893 Daughter: Corn Bone born 1894 Daughter: Ida Bone born 1898 Daughter: Rose Bone born 1901 Daughter: Lillian Bone born 1909 2nd Spouse: Fredrick White Coat born 1869 Children Son: Leon White Coat born 1893
Daughter: Wiyahipiwin-Came for her-1874
Daughter: Angela Crow Ghost born 1881
Son: Kangiwanagi- (Gives the Spotted) Bernard Crowghost born 1878 1st Spouse: Marie born 1879 2nd Spouse: Bessie Elk Nation born 1885
Children 1. Son: Leo Crowghost born 1905 2. Daughter: Amelia Crowghost born 1905 3. Daughter: Amy Jennie Crowghost born 1907 4. Son: Samuel Crowghost born 1909 5. Daughter: Rosa Crowghost born 1911 6. Son: Bernard Crowghost born 1914 7. Son: James Crowghost born 1916
1. Leo Crowghost born 1905 Spouse: Lillie Take the Gun born 1913 Children Daughter: Fidelia Crow Ghost born 6-26-1933 -10-16-1934 2. Amelia CrowGhost
3. Amy Jennie Crowghost born 1907 Spouse: John Thompson born- Fort Peck Children: Daughter: Seraphine Crowghost born 1924 lived with Whitecoats Daughter: Rose Thompson born 1926 Daughter: Mary Jane Thompson born 1932 Son: Herman Thompson born 8-21-1935 Son: Howard Thompson born 9-26-1936
4. Samuel Crow Ghost Spouse: Winifred White Bear Paw (Claw) born 3-26-1913Children: Daughter: Melda Crow Ghost born 3-2-1933 Daughter: Helen Crowghost born 2-20-1935 Daughter: Beverly Crowghost born 1936
5. Rosa Crowghost born 11-12-1911 Spouse: Richard Ricker- Fort Peck Children Son: Stephen Ricker born 4-18-1929
6. Son: Bernard Crowghost born 1914
7. Son: James Crowghost born 1916 Spouse: Adaline White Bear Paw (Claw) born 3-10-1911 Children Daughter: Ima Grace Crowghost born 4-4-1934
(5) Mato Cigala-Little Bear born 1851 Little Bear Hunkpapa Sioux Little Bear Wounded in the leg when his horse was shot from under him in the Custer fight; rescued by his brother-friend Elk Nation in the Little Big Horn battle. Mato Cigala-Richard Little Bear born 1851 Spouse: Wincala-Girl
Children 1. Daughter: Wokiciupi-Begged Off 2. Son: Owecinhan-Kills in 3. Son: Kokalwosica-Trouble Before Hand
2nd Spouse: Tunkan Luta Win-Red Boulder born 1856
Children: 1. Daughter: Kanpiwin- Brought is her born 1874 2. Son: Mato wahacana – Bear Soldier born 1879 3. Daughter: Ptesan-Grey Cow born 1884
(6) Shave Head born 1840
Indian Police that died with the Arresting of Sitting Bull December 15, 1890 Charles Shave Head, First Sergeant of Police, died 25 hours after the fight-he shot Sitting Bull
Shave Head born 1840 Spouse: Annie Shave Head 1850
Children Son: Mato Naji-Jerome Shave Head born 1876 Son: Benedict Shave Head born 1882 Daughter: Mary Shave Head born 1883
Possible half brothers:
Crazy Bear Spouse: Wazi Children: Son: Kitanni-Returns to Life- Born 1875 Son: Mato Maza-Iron Bear- Born 1879 Son: Toka Karpe- Knock Enemy off-Born 1878 Daughter: Gleska Agli brings Spotted- Born 1877 Daughter: Pte san-Grey Cow-born 1884
Mato Ocinisica-Cross Bear born 1846 1st Spouse: Wasu Win born 1851 2nd Spouse: Zintkala born 1856
Children: Daughter: Poica Win- born 1869 Son: Owecihan born -1873 Son: Tasunkaopi- born 1883 Son: Hoksila Waste- born 1884 Bear Soldier Born 1854 Spouse: Nogcanwin-Deaf Woman Born 1861
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Post by emilylevine on Mar 12, 2010 18:14:01 GMT -5
Amazing work, LaDonna!
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Post by nicolas (carlo) on Apr 12, 2010 14:33:19 GMT -5
There is an article on Rain In The Face in the latest edition of Wild West magazine. It restates the controversial story of Rain In The Face killing Tom Custer and cutting his heart out, but it also mentiones his brief relationship with another 7th Cavalry trooper named Teeman, who supposedly freed him from the guardhouse in Fort Lincoln when Rain In The Face was held there on murder charges. The writer claims that this was the reason Teeman was not scalped or mutilated after his death at the Little Big Horn some years later. Rain In The Face supposedly told this story to Eastman in 1905.
Carlo
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Post by ladonna on Apr 12, 2010 16:26:35 GMT -5
RAIN IN THE FACE'S FIRST-HAND ACCOUNT OF THE BATTLE OF THE LITTLE BIGHORN as told to Charles Eastman "When we crossed from Tongue River to the Little Big Horn, on account of the scarcity of game, we did not anticipate any more trouble. Our runners had discovered that Crook had retraced his trail to Goose Creek, and we did not suppose that the white men would care to follow us farther into the rough country. "Suddenly the Long-Haired Chief appeared with his men! It was a surprise." "What part of the camp were you in when the soldiers attacked the lower end?" I asked. "I had been invited to a feast at one of the young men's lodges . There was a certain warrior who was making preparations to go against the Crows, and I had decided to go also," he said.
"While I was eating my meat we heard the war cry! We all rushed out, and saw a warrior riding at top speed from the lower camp, giving the warning as he came. Then we heard the reports of the soldiers' guns, which sounded differently from the guns fired by our people in battle.
"I ran to my teepee and seized my gun, a bow, and a quiver full of arrows. I already had my stone war club, for you know we usually carry those by way of ornament. Just as I was about to set out to meet Reno, a body of soldiers appeared nearly opposite us, at the edge of a long line of cliffs across the river.
"All of us who were mounted and ready immediately started down the stream toward the ford. There were Ogallalas, Minneconjous, Cheyennes, and some Unkpapas, and those around me seemed to be nearly all very young men.
"'Behold, there is among us a young woman!' I shouted. 'Let no young man hide behind her garment!' I knew that would make those young men brave.
"The woman was Tashenamani, or Moving Robe, whose brother had just been killed in the fight with Three Stars. Holding her brother's war staff over her head, and leaning forward upon her charger, she looked as pretty as a bird. Always when there is a woman in the charge, it causes the warriors to vie with one another in displaying their valor," he added.
"The foremost warriors had almost surrounded the white men, and more were continually crossing the stream. The soldiers had dismounted, and were firing into the camp from the top of the cliff."
"My friend, was Sitting Bull in this fight?" I inquired.
"I did not see him there, but I learned afterward that he was among those who met Reno, and that was three or four of the white man's miles from Custer's position. Later he joined the attack upon Custer, but was not among the foremost.
"When the troops were surrounded on two sides, with the river on the third, the order came to charge! There were many very young men, some of whom had only a war staff or a stone war club in hand, who plunged into the column, knocking the men over and stampeding their horses.
"The soldiers had mounted and started back, but when the onset came they dismounted again and separated into several divisions, facing different ways. They fired as fast as they could load their guns, while we used chiefly arrows and war clubs. There seemed to be two distinct movements among the Indians. One body moved continually in a circle, while the other rode directly into and through the troops.
"Presently some of the soldiers remounted and fled along the ridge toward Reno's position; but they were followed by our warriors, like hundreds of blackbirds after a hawk. A larger body remained together at the upper end of a little ravine, and fought bravely until they were cut to pieces. I had always thought that white men were cowards, but I had a great respect for them after this day.
"It is generally said that a young man with nothing but a war staff in his hand broke through the column and knocked down the leader very early in the fight. We supposed him to be the leader, because he stood up in full view, swinging his big knife [sword] over his head, and talking loud. Some one unknown afterwards shot the chief, and he was probably killed also; for if not, he would have told of the deed, and called others to witness it. So it is that no one knows who killed the Long-Haired Chief [General Custer].
"After the first rush was over, coups were counted as usual on the bodies of the slain. You know four coups [or blows] can be counted on the body of an enemy, and whoever counts the first one [touches it for the first time] is entitled to the 'first feather.'
"There was an Indian here called Appearing Elk, who died a short time ago. He was slightly wounded in the charge. He had some of the weapons of the Long-Haired Chief, and the Indians used to say jokingly after we came upon the reservation that Appearing Elk must have killed the Chief, because he had his sword! However, the scramble for plunder did not begin until all were dead. I do not think he killed Custer, and if he had, the time to claim the honor was immediately after the fight.
"Many lies have been told of me. Some say that I killed the Chief, and others that I cut out the heart of his brother [Tom Custer], because he had caused me to be imprisoned. Why, in that fight the excitement was so great that we scarcely recognized our nearest friends!
"Everything was done like lightning. After the battle we young men were chasing horses all over the prairie, while the old men and women plundered the bodies; and if any mutilating was done, it was by the old men.
"I have lived peaceably ever since we came upon the reservation. No one can say that Rain-in-the-Face has broken the rules of the Great Father. I fought for my people and my country. When we were conquered I remained silent, as a warrior should. Rain-in-the-Face was killed when he put down his weapons before the Great Father. His spirit was gone then; only his poor body lived on, but now it is almost ready to lie down for the last time.
"Ho, hechetu! [It is well.]"
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Post by leelee2010 on Jun 28, 2010 10:55:46 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna my name is Lee , I've been doing Genealogy on my family and when i read this post i about jumped out of my skin. My grandma's name was Rose {Crow Ghost}Ricker dob: 11/12/1911 who married Richard Ricker from The Fort Peck Rez in Poplar Montana. I was blown away with the information you had posted. In my research i came to an end about two years ago, I couldn't get anybody to help. All I had for information was Bernard Crowghost & Bessie being her mother and father. I had some questions for you cause I would love to know if I can put this information into my genealogy tree. I hope these are my relatives as well if we can some how share information that would be great. Hope you read this . please email Thanks so much Lee
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Post by ladonna on Jun 29, 2010 0:22:08 GMT -5
This is my email address earthw7@yahoo.com
I have to say hello relatives and yes you can use all the information.
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Post by akhummingbird on Jun 30, 2010 2:14:49 GMT -5
I have receipts that show that Rain-in-the-Face worked at a "Sioux War Village" at Coney Island July 1894. I tried Googling, but can't find any information about a Sioux War Village exhibit at Coney Island. Does anyone else have more info on the Coney Island gig (other than "RAIN IN THE FACE'S ACCOUNT OF THE BATTLE OF THE LITTLE BIGHORN" By W. Kent Thomas which confirms that Rain in the Face was at Coney Island at that time).
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Post by ladonna on Jun 30, 2010 9:33:19 GMT -5
I don't have the dates when he was there but i can add that this is where Sitting bull's cabin ended up and was destroyed in a fire at Coney Island.
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Post by leelee2010 on Jul 2, 2010 10:30:35 GMT -5
The photo with Rain and the face and his wife....I didn't see what was his wife's name? was it listed and I just didn't see it?
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Post by grahamew on Nov 7, 2010 13:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by ladonna on Nov 8, 2010 9:32:09 GMT -5
I have never seen these photos before thanks
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Post by grahamew on Nov 28, 2010 13:58:04 GMT -5
Scarce autograph signed in pencil on the face of an admission ticket to the 1893 Columbian Exposition (World's Fair) in Chicago. The child-like careful hand is typical of many Native Americans who learned to read and/or write (a foreign language to them) late in life. The autograph was obtained while Rain-in-the-Face was a participant in one of several "cultural villages" featured at the Expo. Letter of provenance also included from the family agent in Switzerland. The original owner was so fascinated with American Indians that he later visited the American Southwest. This remarkable artifact is affixed to a page in a 10 x 12 in. souvenir volume from the Expo, written in German. It features descriptions of buildings, architecture and exhibitions featured throughout the fair. The particular page to which the admission ticket has been affixed is of Sitting Bull's Cabin - taken apart and moved to the fair. Rain-in-the-Face stands to the left of the fence, not wearing a hat. The entire souvenir book is included in the lot (the binding is in rough condition, but the pages are fine). On the page with the cabin, is noted in ink: Signatur von Hauptling 'Regen im Gesicht.' Er totete General Custer am 'Little Big Horn.' Mein Onkel is dem Indianer an der Welt-Ausstellung 1893 personlich begegnet! {Signature of Chief Rain in the Face who killed General Custer at the Little Big Horn. My Uncle met the Indians at the World Expo personally.} (He probably didn't kill Custer, but it made for great publicity at a World Expo! Later in life he denied both killing George and mutilating Thomas Custer - both of which he was alleged to have done.) Included is a curious newspaper article reporting that Rain-in-the-Face had been stabbed by a woman he supposedly ignored. We can find no confirmation of this event. (The clipping does not indicate a date.) From www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?ItemId=89400See Page 10 in this thread...
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