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Post by frank on Jul 30, 2012 18:31:50 GMT -5
Hey, Whatta hell is this... are all these 3 guys in these pictures the same Lone wolf? At least 2 first of them have exact same clothes so they are the same guy. But is the last picture, the oldest man, the same Lone Wolf as in 2 first ones? ...and can someone explain why the first picture has a text saying the indian in the picture is Oglala? Anyone ever heard of Lone Wolf the Oglala? Shouldnt Lone Wolf be Kiowa? I got all mixed up with this...
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Post by tkavanagh on Jul 30, 2012 19:34:03 GMT -5
The third one is the Kiowa.
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Post by frank on Jul 30, 2012 19:59:00 GMT -5
Ok... so the first 2 are not younger versions of the third guy? Who is then in the first 2 pictures? Some Oglala, but who?
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Post by tkavanagh on Jul 31, 2012 8:29:07 GMT -5
These are three photos of two different men.
All three photos are by Alex Gardner, in 1872, in DC.
The first two are of the Oglala man Shuntaka Inshnana (or S... Inshnala). Lone Wolf; the third is the Kiowa man Quipago, Lone Wolf (in Comanche Isasimmos, 'One Wolf').
[Note: in light of our recent thread re: Sitinty I and II, this really should be Quipago II; and there was to be a third, Delos K. LW, nephew (iirc) of II.]
[Note II: at least one web page out there confuses the two, using the pic of the Oglala to illustrate the deeds of the Kiowa.]
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Post by gregor on Jul 31, 2012 9:32:53 GMT -5
And this is the Oglala in old age (1904)
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 11:07:42 GMT -5
Any english translated name for the Oglala? Thanks for the help guys.
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 11:51:47 GMT -5
Also any short bio about this Shuntaka Inshnana would be greatly appreciated if you happen to have any? I would use it on my website. I must have been so d**n mixed up when I was creating my Oglala page that I for some reason MADE UP Lone Wolf the Oglala... dammit... Lone Wolf the Kiowa I had listed of course... I dont know what I was thinking... anyway thanks for the help.
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Post by gregor on Jul 31, 2012 14:33:20 GMT -5
Lone Wolf would be Shunkmanitu Isnala in Lakota (but there are different ways in writing the words, sometimes "diacritic" marks are used - sorry, I'm not a linguist). There is little known about Lone Wolf, he was a member of the 1872 Red Cloud delegation to Washington. At that times he was a minor chief. In the 1870ies Lone Wolf was the leader of some 50 lodges. Later on the reservation he settled in the Pass Creek district. Thats all I know.
Greetings from Germany Gregor
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Post by tkavanagh on Jul 31, 2012 15:00:20 GMT -5
The "Inshana/Insnala", iņśnana/iņśnala [inshnala/insnana] part is easy: 'lone.'
The NAA has the first part of the name as "Shun-To-Ka-Cha". As near as I can make out from Riggs' 1890 *Dakota* (yes, yes, I know) dictionary, śuņkto'keća [shung to'kecha], is literally 'other dog', i.e., a wolf.
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 15:21:12 GMT -5
Awesome thanks dudes.
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Post by miller7513 on Jul 31, 2012 15:56:19 GMT -5
Lone Wolf Born 1830 Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger pg 70 High Wolf, Lone Hill, Last One, Lone Wolf, and Chips- Red Cloud band 15 in lodge pg 125 Young Bad Wound 5 in family- Crow Runner 6 in family- Broken Hawk 8 in family- Man Don’t Like thingy (not a misprint) 2 in family- Lone Wolf 4 in family- Medicine 5 in family-30 in lodge pg 142 Lone Wolf ration tickets 12 in family
Census Jun 1886 Pine Ridge pg 139 1887 Pine Ridge pg 158 30 Jun 1888 Pine Ridge pg 494 1 Jul 1890 Pine Ridge pg 210 1 Jul 1892 Pine Ridge pg 314 4 Mar 1893 Pine Ridge pg 112 1893 Pine Ridge pg 384 1 Jul 1894 Pine Ridge pg 105 30 jun 1895 Pine Ridge pg 498 30 Jun 1896 Pine Ridge pg 141 30 Jun 1897 Pine Ridge pg 330 30 Jun 1898 Pine Ridge pg 470 30 Jun 1899 Pine Ridge pg 614 Cousin of Standing Bear (Luthers father) 1910 census Medicine Root pg 169a married 4 times parents b in S Dakota
2nd one Born 1837 Crazy Horse Surrender Ledger pg 75 1-1-0-2 Wahzahzah Red Leaf band pg 120 beef record Red Kettle 4 in family-Likes To Fight 6 in family-Beet 6 in family-White Cow Chief 3 in family-Lone Wolf 10 in family- 30 in lodge pg 154 transferred to Spotted Tail 1-2-0-2 LaDeane
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 16:32:11 GMT -5
Thanks Miller.
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Post by lgarcia on Aug 2, 2012 16:43:28 GMT -5
In the Dakota dialect spoken here at Spiril Lake (Ft. Totten / Devils Lake) Sungmanitu (Wild Dog) is a coyote. Sungtokca (Special Dog) is a wolf.
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Post by cinemo on Apr 23, 2014 13:59:41 GMT -5
Some information with respect to Lone Wolf the Elder ( Kiowa )
Lone Wolf the Elder ( Guipago ) was born around the year 1820. He had two wives and two children. His first wife and his first child perished by a tragically incident.The lodge of Lone Wolf was struck by lightning, his wife and child died instantly, but Lone Wolf survived. Since this incident, it was believed, that Lone Wolf possessed great medicine power.
Almost all sources report, that he was a member of the Koitsenko ( the Sentinel or Scout Dogs Society) , the most elite warrior society of the Kiowas. Despite of these assertions, it seems, he was a member and leader of the Tsetanma, the Horse Headdresses Society. ( 1 )
In 1863, he was among the Indian delegates accompanying Indian agent S. G. Colley to Washington in a futile effort to establish a favorable peace policy. Along with other prominent chiefs he signed the Little Arkansas Treaty with federal commissioners on Oct. 18, 1865.
In February and March 1866 Lone Wolf led braves on a series of raids into Texas, where he took many horses. Upon the death of Chief Dohasan in 1866 he became head chief.
Lone Wolf attended the council at Medicine Lodge in October 1867, but was not among the chiefs who signed the treaty that forced the Kiowas to accept a reservation in Oklahoma.
After hostilities resumed in 1868, Lone Wolf and Satanta agreed to meet with Lt. Col. George A. Custer for the purposes of negotiating peace. On Dec. 17, 1868, the two chiefs, after meeting with Custer under a flag of truce, were brought to Fort Cobb, military headquarters inside the Kiowa-Comanche reservation. Once there, Gen. Philip H. Sheridan ordered them held hostage, and Custer threatened to hang them if the Kiowas did not agree to return to their reservation. This course of action proved effective, for, by the time the two chiefs were released, most of the Kiowas had agreed to return to the reservation.
On April 30, 1872, Lone Wolf and his son Tau-ankia (Sitting-in-the-Saddle) participated in the attack on a government wagon train at Howard's Wells, on the San Antonio-El Paso Road, in which a number of Mexican teamsters were killed. They then fought off a patrol of the 9th Cavalry from Fort Concho. During the skirmish a warrior named Mamadayte rescued the wounded Tau-ankia.
In the fall of 1872 Lone Wolf was chosen by his tribe as a delegate to accompany special commissioner Henry Alford to Washington for a peace conference. There the chief used his influence to secure the parole of Satanta and Big Tree from prison the next year. Hopes of peace were dashed, however, when Tau-ankia and his cousin Guitan were killed by troops of the 4th Cavalry near Kickapoo Springs in Edwards County on Dec. 10, 1873, while returning from a raid into Mexico. Long Horn returned to secretly hide the bodies and news of the deaths reached the Kiowa camps January 13, 1874. The tribe mourned the loss of the two popular young men. Guitan was the son of Red Otter and Lone Wolf’s favorite nephew. In spring of 1874, Lone Wolf`s warriors revovered the men`s bodies but were forced to rebury them, when pursued by troops.
Lone Wolf was among the participants in the attack on Adobe Walls on June 27, 1874, the second battle of Adobe Walls. About July 12 his band ambushed and besieged 27 Texas Rangers. During the so-called "Lost Valley Fight" two rangers were killed, two more were wounded, and the rangers lost most of their horses. The rest of the group escaped annihilation only through a timely rescue by troopers of the 10th Cavalry under Capt. T. A. Baldwin. In the course of this battle, Mamadayte killed ranger David Bailey. The young warrior turned over Bailey's body to Lone Wolf who, after cutting off the ranger's head, declared his son avenged. As a reward for Mamadayte's actions, Lone Wolf adopted him and gave him the name Lone Wolf the Younger.
During the Red River War, his village was destroyed in Palo Duro Canyon by army troops. On February 26 , 1875, Lone Wolf surrendered at Fort Sill. He was among the leaders singled out for incarceration at Fort Marion, Florida. Weakened by malaria, he died near Fort Sill in the summer of 1879, soon after his release from prison.
Note (1 ) For this, please see the book : Kiowa Military Societies: Ethnohistory and Ritual, by William C. Meadows ( especially page 415 )
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Post by waganari on Oct 19, 2014 16:25:22 GMT -5
Is this the same man?
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