I seem to have 4 and 5 branches of native blood on Both my mom's and dad's sides. No documents, but tons of photos and family facts passed-down, and my mom said her maternal grandma could also speak a native tongue. (much else too num- erous to mention that supports it all---including my own looks that All indians seem to recognize me as "one of their own" w/ a respectful nod-of-the-head greeting as well as just asking me outright "What Tribe are you?" (NOT asking ARE you Indian-but KNOWING / Assuming i am!). In any case---i am attempting to FIND any kind of paper support. Do any of you recognize any of the following surnames/individual names and have any info on them that supports they Were native American Indian? Grateful for any help or hints.Thanks.
My "native" Ancestors are.....Mariah Louisa DOLE m. Thomas WEST HANKINS (both West and Hankins lines, as well as Dole seem to have the native blood). They were in Knoxville, TN c.1830.
Also my ancestors, Emmanuel ("Manuel") ULRY who m. Lucinda WINGET (both lines again believed to be native).They were in Adams county, IL mid-1800s.
My GEORGE line also is rife w/native people.....going back to Ellis Barrett GEORGE of Indiana from Ohio, circa early 1800s who m. Melita McDONALD whose mom was Rachel BURDON---again BOTH the McDonald/Burdon lines seem to have the native blood.
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Diane, I hope someone recognizes some of these names. I've been doing genealogical stuff for about 30 years, and tried to find the native American ancestors on my nephews' sides in both Ill, Indiana and TN. (No luck!) It is very difficult when you are going back, like with your Hankins to the 1830s. In all probability, your ancestors will be listed as "white" in the censuses. I see your Emmanual Ulry in Adams County has land records, and four marriages from 22 June 1856 Lucinda Winget; 9 June 1867 Mrs. Elizabeth Winget; 29 Oct 1874 to Emma Lakin and 10 April 1871 Cynthia Lakin--all in Adams County, Ill. Your George family has records in Indiana; not certain which Ellis George is the correct one. I didn't find the censuses for them (this was a quick overview..) but I doubt you will find "|Indian" listed in the race column. If your ancestors Indian lines go back further, they probably just got eclipsed into the censuses. I think you would have to go after the native-speaking grandmother and see who her parents were, and where they were from--it might at least get you in the ballpark of a tribal affiliation. Another thing, is you could look at the old county histories for some of their counties. They often go into extensive biographical info, and list parents and places of origin. It sounds like your family history goes back into the late 1780s into the early 1800s, and this era is tough to determine native ancestry. Obviously, there was lots of intermarriage in early pioneer days, but usually it was native American wives, and they often melded into families, and children were often brought up as Anglos, unless they had a reservation nearby, and they were registered. If I think of anything else I will contact you. Good luck!
I am looking for Edward Atkins (1825-1881) whom I believe is of Native American heritage. We were told that my Great-Grandmother was half Cherokee. I have traced her mothers family, Wisner, but hit a wall when it came to her dad. They came from New York state in the late 1800's. The Wisner's were very well know in the state of New York but have no clue of his family. Census show that he was born in New York, as were his parents. My Great-Grandmother, Martha Mae Atkins, was born in New York, 1847. Listed were her parents, Edward Atkins and Amanda Wisner. Amanda's Father was Gen James Wisner. Being from a well known family, I thought I would be able to find their marriage, then at least I would know where to start trying to find his family. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Maryabkg, A couple of ideas. your ggm, Martha Mae Atkins, b. 1847, has some records listing her birth as Lockport, New York. That is Niagara Co. very upstate, next to the Canadian border. Chances are, her parents married there, about 1845/46 and Edward Atkins was from that village, or a nearby one. However, the marriage record will not help much, for they usually do not list the parents' names if the intended is of age. Try posting on genforum.com under Atkins, Wisner, and Niagara County. Look at a old map and familiarize yourself with the old village names, as some will not appear on current atlases. Cydislist.com has old maps. Consider that the Atkins could be Canadians, migrating to the US. Atkins is an English-origin name, and they could have had land concessions in Ontario (or Upper Canada as it was called). Widen your search, by considering other tribes. Cherokees after 1800 were in south central Tennessee, NW Georgia, and NE Alabama, SE Ohio in the early years. Since you have upstate New York you might want to try Haudenosaunee resources. (This is not my area of expertise, so experts please jump in!) Even try native peoples in Canada. The native ancestor you are looking for would be born around 1790s-1800, since Edward Atkins was born 1828. Again, you will probably have to rely on family research, rather than documentation, as this is a somewhat remote area, and the censuses will not list women by name until 1840-1850. Even then, you get Christianized first names. Consider joining a genealogical society in that area to receive their newsletters, which often print obscure documents and lists. See if they publish books, listing early marriages, tombstones, early births etc. There is a Niagara History which charges $25 a query. They may have an Atkins file. (Keep in mind that early family histories are rife with errors or assumptions; just because a repository has held something for years does not make it accurate. Family stories are still family stories...) You could try Acts of Genealogical Kindness (on cydislist.com) and see if anyone kind in Niagara County would go copy a file for you for copying costs). Was Edward Atkins a soldier? Notice he followed his father-in-law to Indiana, who was a General. Did he work at a frontier fort, or provide services to the fort, like a blacksmith, trader, trapper, etc. Sometimes there are fort history associations with wonderful documentation. Hope this helps, just some broad ideas!
Has anyone heard of the name 'Otany' 'Ottney' 'Ottany' Showing up? My family had a native bride they shunned. Her husband ( My great great grand uncle) a trapper from the Ohio region. Left with her to live with her people. The family geneolgy lists him as 'unwed' no death date and the family refuses to speak of the marriage or what became of them. I have only the name (tribe, clan or band perhaps) 'deerfoot' to go on and am on a quest. Thanks! Oh, this would be about the turn of the century.
Looking for connections to NEWTON name,,REED also..dont know much history on either side,,NEBRASKA is one local i heard about years ago.I found a REED clan in Souther N.M and am wondering if it is a connection.
trying to find more info and pictures on the north Carolina native American Indian families of North Carolina Beaufort and Hyde counties of North Carolina my grand mother bessi e Mackey and her father James Mackey also my great grandmother Larissa Mackey my email is Baldwin Willis 76@ yahoo.com or you can find n on Facebook.
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searching for info on my great grandmother Caroline clinkscales who was born in due West honorary abbeville south Carolina who had a son name John clinicals and Baird clinkscales and daughters names Julia clinkscales and Laura clinicals they also lived in Greenville and Anderson south Carolina and you an find a photograph of Caroline clinkscales and info the wiki tree.com also she might have went bye other names like dicey sadler you can contact me though my email at firstname.lastname@example.org thank you