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Post by grahamew on Jul 3, 2012 9:08:06 GMT -5
I'm sure I've seen at least one other of him.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 3, 2012 12:32:58 GMT -5
This one: Credited to Barthelmess ca. 1889
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Post by andersen on Jul 5, 2012 5:46:16 GMT -5
Wooden Leg mentions that three scouts met the little band of Last Bull before the surrender at Camp Robinson early May 1877: one a Sioux, one a Cheyenne and one a Cheyenne-Sioux named Fire Wolf.
A Fire Wolf was a peace envoy to the Crazy Horse camp a few months before.
Mari Sandoz mentions in "Cheyenne Autumn" that a Fire Wolf joined the Little Wolf band from Pine Ridge, when this band was hiding in Northern Nebraska in the winter of 1878/79.
Are we talking about the same man?
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Post by andersen on Jul 5, 2012 6:27:31 GMT -5
Correction: Wooden Leg and Sandoz are NOT talking about a Fire Wolf, but about a Fire Crow, who may be the same man, who was a peace envoy to the Crazy Horse Camp (name given in Tom Powers: "The Killing of Crazy Horse" as a Crow Fire). Sorry for the mistanke.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 9, 2012 12:18:46 GMT -5
I think I've seen a front view medium close up of Fire Wolf, but can't locate it at the moment. Meanwhile... Indians and travois, Miles City (n.d.) Rain in the Face at home; ca. 1878-9 Unidentified. Anyone got a better version? Brave Wolf and wife, Cheyenne; 1901 Leggins, Mandan, 1902.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 24, 2012 15:02:35 GMT -5
Another late period Huffman (or Bathelemess...): Plenty Bird, Cheyenne, 1892: The Cheyenne American Horse's camp: Cheyennes at the mission on Sunday morning: Cheyenne boy: Cheyenne sweat lodge, 1905: The other Fire Wolf photo: Deaf Bull, Crow, for whom I've seen an earlier date, but I'm assuming it's after his 1887 notoriety...
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Post by grahamew on Jul 26, 2012 10:29:00 GMT -5
White Magpie, Teton - an early photo.
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Post by shatonska on Sept 25, 2012 14:48:20 GMT -5
I also have read that the famous chief ICE (or White Bull) was son of Black Mocassin, and then brother of White Hawk. It's right? There were two Black Moccasin chiefs Black Moccasin (a/k/a Limber Lance) principal Chief. (See Father Peter Powell: People of the Sacred Mountain.) and Black Moccasin aka iron
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 4, 2012 5:45:33 GMT -5
Here´s another portrait by L.A. Huffman offered at Ebay. The incription says "Red Bead - Blackfoot". Isn´t it rather the Cheyenne Red Arm Panther portraited by Huffman in another picture?
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Post by grahamew on Nov 5, 2012 13:09:48 GMT -5
Great picture, but I don't think it's Red Armed Panther. Or a Blackfoot! Maybe he's a Blackfoot Lakota. There was a significant late 19th century Cheyenne called Red Bead. If I recall correctly, Grinnell mentions him in his account of the Sun Dance.
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Post by mikewh1876 on Dec 11, 2013 13:35:34 GMT -5
I have found the indian name of White Hawk: VOHPEAENOHE His father Black Mocassin was one of the four Northern Cheyenne Deciders at LBH. At which band belonged him (and his son)? Don't exsist images of him? hi my name is michael whitehawk ,WHITEHAWK was my name sake he is the same whitehawk who surrender at fort keogh .after his flight from the lamedeer battle .he is the same whitehawk who fought in the battle LBH .a sud chief for the elk horn scrapers the same society iam in my farther talked of him .he died a very old man ,he had a lot of horses .one day a horse dragged him to death ...black mocassin is the father of whitebull AKA ice ..HA'ho
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Post by mikewh1876 on Dec 11, 2013 13:36:02 GMT -5
I have found the indian name of White Hawk: VOHPEAENOHE His father Black Mocassin was one of the four Northern Cheyenne Deciders at LBH. At which band belonged him (and his son)? Don't exsist images of him?
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Post by mikewh1876 on Dec 11, 2013 13:36:42 GMT -5
I have found the indian name of White Hawk: VOHPEAENOHE His father Black Mocassin was one of the four Northern Cheyenne Deciders at LBH. At which band belonged him (and his son)? Don't exsist images of him?
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Post by peter on Nov 17, 2018 16:35:32 GMT -5
Huffman was in the right place at the right time to record images of some of the northern Plains people during the twilight of the buffalo-hunting days, as Lakota and Cheyenne surrrendered and, in some cases, took up the offer of becoming scouts for the army. The following were, to the best of my knowledge, all taken between 1878 and 1881. Without wishing to pretend that this was exactly how these men and women were dressed as they entered his studio, within a few years, coats, hats and trousers would become de rigueur for the everyday wear of many of these Indians. Please feel free to add more images - or better versions of any that I've posted. Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc High Bear, Miniconjou or Oglala Tall Bear Hump and his warriors, Miniconjou Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc Spotted Bear, Hunkpapa (Cheyenne?) women Hump and his wives, Miniconjou Hump and his head warriors Scorched Lightning (Spotted Eagle's son?), Sans Arc Rain in the Face, Hunkpapa Man on the Hill and his wife, Lakota Lakota women (though I've seen them identified as Crow) Oglala village, Tongue River Spotted Elk, Oglala(?) Young Lakota Spotted Eagle's village Yanktonai village (?) Sans Arc hunter and wife Scorched Lightning/Young Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc Lakota scouts Lakota mother and child; Spotted Elk Cheyenne men Lakota children or possibly Two Moon's children, Cheyenne Red Armed Panther, Cheyenne White Bull, Cheyenne Wolf Voice, Cheyenne/Gros Ventre Northern Cheyenne girl Pretty Nose, Cheyenne Pretty Eyes, Cheyenne White Hawk, Cheyenne White Bull, Cheyenne Wolf's Voice, Cheyenne/Gros Ventre Two Moon, Cheyenne (credited to Morrow, although the backdrop is the same as in the photo of Wolf Voice, above) Two Moon's daughters, Cheyenne Running Antelope, Cheyenne Sits Down Spotted, Crow Crow scout Little Crow and brother Crow Lieutenant Bladwin and Cheyennes making a trail around Lionite Bluff Little Big Man, Oglala
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Post by peter on Nov 17, 2018 16:37:33 GMT -5
Huffman was in the right place at the right time to record images of some of the northern Plains people during the twilight of the buffalo-hunting days, as Lakota and Cheyenne surrrendered and, in some cases, took up the offer of becoming scouts for the army. The following were, to the best of my knowledge, all taken between 1878 and 1881. Without wishing to pretend that this was exactly how these men and women were dressed as they entered his studio, within a few years, coats, hats and trousers would become de rigueur for the everyday wear of many of these Indians. Please feel free to add more images - or better versions of any that I've posted. Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc High Bear, Miniconjou or Oglala Tall Bear Hump and his warriors, Miniconjou Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc Spotted Bear, Hunkpapa (Cheyenne?) women Hump and his wives, Miniconjou Hump and his head warriors Scorched Lightning (Spotted Eagle's son?), Sans Arc Rain in the Face, Hunkpapa Man on the Hill and his wife, Lakota Lakota women (though I've seen them identified as Crow) Oglala village, Tongue River Spotted Elk, Oglala(?) Young Lakota Spotted Eagle's village Yanktonai village (?) Sans Arc hunter and wife Scorched Lightning/Young Spotted Eagle, Sans Arc Lakota scouts Lakota mother and child; Spotted Elk Cheyenne men Lakota children or possibly Two Moon's children, Cheyenne Red Armed Panther, Cheyenne White Bull, Cheyenne Wolf Voice, Cheyenne/Gros Ventre Northern Cheyenne girl Pretty Nose, Cheyenne Pretty Eyes, Cheyenne White Hawk, Cheyenne White Bull, Cheyenne Wolf's Voice, Cheyenne/Gros Ventre Two Moon, Cheyenne (credited to Morrow, although the backdrop is the same as in the photo of Wolf Voice, above) Two Moon's daughters, Cheyenne Running Antelope, Cheyenne Sits Down Spotted, Crow Crow scout Little Crow and brother Crow Lieutenant Bladwin and Cheyennes making a trail around Lionite Bluff Little Big Man, Oglala
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