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Post by kayitah on Feb 26, 2011 10:26:53 GMT -5
Western Apache scouts in the field Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Feb 26, 2011 10:29:14 GMT -5
Sergeant Banaashlay and another scout Attachments:
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 3, 2011 17:03:59 GMT -5
Al Sieber and Apache Scouts and unknown man Attachments:
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Post by naiches2 on Mar 3, 2011 17:14:27 GMT -5
The fellow at right looks familiar... Found this one, including Merejildo Grijalva, a slightly different version of the more familiar one:  Picture from Arizona Historical Review. N4 is Nalthe or David Longstreet from Grenville Goodwin's book ''Western Apache Raiding and Warfare".  Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Mar 9, 2011 18:05:05 GMT -5
Capitan Chiquito?  Attachments:
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Post by Second on Mar 13, 2011 13:31:23 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I just recvd an ISBN for my book and I have entered the last phase of publishing. My book is titled Second Jumper, searching for his bloodline. Written by Sigfried R. Second-Jumper.
It has taken me 5 yrs to write it. It starts out with the surrendering of the Chiricahuas and their journey to Florida as prisoners of war. While in Florida, my great grandparents were separated from the bulk of the Tribe and shipped to Cuba. An event witnessed by other prisoners, and recorded in their oral history and songs.
Also recorded and photographed by my family are my great grandparent’s arrival in Cuba, their struggles, sacrifices and accomplishments. Some of my great grandparent’s descendents began migrating to Florida, settling on the outskirts of the Florida Everglades. It was there that I discovered a Miccosukee Indian camp tucked deep in the swamps. Little did I know I was meeting the remnants of the only Unconquered Nation, The Florida Seminoles. In time I learned to master the art of breaking in horses, wrestling alligators, followed by 15 yrs of dancing and singing among them. These events were captured and will be shown with never before seen photographs.
Through their encouragement, I along with my family set out on a trip across country, in search of our long lost Apache relatives. A long journey that started in St. Augustine, FL, Oklahoma, Arizona, ended at the Mescalero Apache Reservation in NM. Upon arrival at Mescalero, I was welcomed and accepted by ex-prisoners of war, the Chiricahuas and ultimately my long lost relatives. Unaware of my past tribal history, I was inaugurated into the medicine circle as a singer for the Chiricahua Crown Dancers. It was there, that I have and continue to learn the traditional ways of the Chiricahuas. After many years of loosing members and traditions, we all decided to record and preserve our ways along with our daily activities for future generations. For the first time ever, the reader will enter into the sacred tepee of the Crown dancers and learned what takes place prior to ceremonies. All of it has been done with the consent of all members.
When the Seminoles learned that I was recording these stories, they asked me to include theirs as well. Some of these tales and photographs have been kept by members of both groups for decades as family treasures. I am honored to have been trusted to write them as they were told to me. All stories were reviewed by all participants prior to publishing to assure that they are told as they would want their great grandchildren to hear them.
Unlike many or most books written about these two groups, this one is done from within. As a result, the participants felt comfortable revealing stories long suppress by fear and mistrust. There is only half a page of references and over 300 pages of the real stories of the Tigers of the Human race, the Chiricahua Apaches and the Only Unconquered Nation, the Florida Seminoles.
I have dedicated my book to future Chiricahua and Seminole descendents but it really pertains to all humans as preserving their ancestral ways is just as important.
I will keep you all posted as soon as my book is available.
Sincerely,
Siggy Jumper
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Post by jeroen on Mar 21, 2011 5:03:36 GMT -5
Scouts with Gatewood:  |
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Post by kayitah on Mar 27, 2011 16:59:22 GMT -5
Lt. Gatewood, Lt. Mills, and an unidentified Apache Scout, probably a White Mountain Apache. Attachments:
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Post by kayitah on Mar 28, 2011 13:21:42 GMT -5
The fellow at right looks familiar... Found this one, including Merejildo Grijalva, a slightly different version of the more familiar one: Picture from Arizona Historical Review. N4 is Nalthe or David Longstreet from Grenville Goodwin's book ''Western Apache Raiding and Warfare". You're right, it's Nalta, also known as David Longstreet. He was also known as "San Carlos Dude" or just "Dude". |
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Post by iron horse on Apr 7, 2011 6:41:48 GMT -5
Interesting thread. Re: "bronco apaches", they were still hunted like animals in the mid 1930´s in northern Mexico.
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Post by jeroen on May 7, 2011 8:30:33 GMT -5
Staged image of some of the same scouts as those in the group image posted above... Merejildo Grijalva is in the background:  |
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Post by dianec on May 9, 2011 13:30:06 GMT -5
I have put this famous guy in here. I hope this is fine with the other guys? I haven't seen a picture in this forum so far, but maybe I just missed it   Quite good summery about him here to find: www.legendsofamerica.com/na-apachekid.htmlCheers -Frank- Being female I must note that APACHE KID was a handsome fellow! I read that Chief Diablo was so handsome that the white women settlers swooned when they saw him! Silly me!  |
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Post by naiches2 on May 9, 2011 14:21:23 GMT -5
Welcome Dianec!
Chief Diablo's Photos look at thread ''Apache Tag Bands of Fort Apache and San Carlos Reservations'' reply #17
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Post by kayitah on May 9, 2011 14:45:34 GMT -5
Hi dianec (Diane C.?), welcome in "Apacheria"!  It's great to add a girl to our ranks, cool! Kid for sure was a good-looking fellow. There were many, and several observants (John G. Bourke among others) pointed out that these people (the Apache) in general have perfectionally built bodies and handsome faces. |
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Post by kayitah on May 10, 2011 7:11:58 GMT -5
I read that under Crook, the Army issued red cloth headbands to the Apache Scouts, to tell them apart from the hostiles. Initially, they wanted white cloth for the headbands, but somehow there wasn't enough available.
I was wondering if there still are reports of Apache scouts mistakenly idenfied as the enemy in the field by their U.S. Army comrades...?
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