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Post by Dietmar on Jun 25, 2009 8:43:24 GMT -5
I start this thread with the best known pictures of Naiche (sometimes also spelled Natchez), son of Cochise and grandson of Mangas Coloradas, taken by photographer Frank A. Randall in 1886:  Naiche by Frank A. Randall, 1886 (*SIRIS)  Naiche & his wife Ha-o-zinne (*SIRIS)  Naiche & his wife Ha-o-zinne (*SIRIS)  Naiche I also have a full view version of the photo Jeroen posted in the Geronimo thread. Unfortunately there is no information about the photographer or the date:   (posted originally by Jeroen) |
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Post by grahamew on Jun 25, 2009 12:39:05 GMT -5
My guess is Ft Sam Huston. There are tents in the Geronimo photos taken there and he's wearing the cowboy boots he bought before the train journey east.  At San Carlos, ca.1880 - by George Rothrock  Naiche?  1916. At the right is the Mescalero, Sanspuer; taken by the Rev'd James O Arthur |
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Post by jeroen on Jun 26, 2009 3:10:11 GMT -5
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Post by jinlian on Jun 26, 2009 7:59:18 GMT -5
The last image posted by Jeroen in bigger format - besided Naiche and Geronimo (sitting third from left), we've also American Horse, Oglala (sitting first from left) and John Hollow Horn Bear, Sicangu (sitting first from right) - I think this photograph was taken at Omaha, 1898  Some time ago, I found this one an auction website (don't remember which one, sorry) - not top quality, but it's interesting, as I'm almost sure there's a similar picture of Geronimo.  |
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Post by grahamew on Jun 26, 2009 11:02:17 GMT -5
There is - there's a small vesion in the Geronimo thread.
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Post by jinlian on Jun 26, 2009 11:06:26 GMT -5
Thank you, Grahame - I obviously missed it (due to a kind of Stendhal's syndrome?  ) |
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Post by grahamew on Jun 26, 2009 12:17:15 GMT -5
Don't worry. I thought I'd posted that picture of Naiche you did. I know I meant to...
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Post by jeroen on Jul 3, 2009 1:59:37 GMT -5
got a few more...  Naiche, along with Fun, Nahbay and his youngest wife Haozinne   Dorothy, Naiche's eldest daughter  Cochise's daughters, half sisters to Naiche |
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Post by naiches on Jul 3, 2009 16:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by naiches on Jul 3, 2009 17:08:49 GMT -5
I like Bay-kath-lay or Becalthey. He is chief of band of peaceful Chokonen exiled from San Carlos in sept. 1886 with Loco. Inf from Woodward B Skinner (Author): The Apache rock crumbles: The captivity of Geronimo's people  |
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Post by naiches on Jul 4, 2009 13:04:17 GMT -5
Sorry I'm mistake - Bay-kath-lay been sent in Florida with Beshtuay, Zele, Chavez (Cheos) and others. Loco, Chato, Kaahtenay and frends been sent from Washimgton via Ft. Leavenworth
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Post by naiches on Jul 4, 2009 15:47:15 GMT -5
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Post by jeroen on Jul 7, 2009 7:16:59 GMT -5
Great pictures Naiches! Here are a few more... beautiful portrait from life of Naiche by E.A. Burbank:  Naiche and Eugene Chihuahua  Christian Naiche Jr, son of the chief, and his wife  |
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2009 11:52:04 GMT -5
More Burbank Naiche:   |
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Post by kayitah on Jul 27, 2009 15:12:51 GMT -5
Wow, that photograph of "Bay-kath-lay" / "Becalthey" is awesome!! naiche: may I ask you where you found this? Do you have any other from Reed & Wallace? btw, how can I upload images? Thanks  |
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